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De La Hoya Beats Pacquiao if Not Drained, Says Steward

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    #31
    Originally posted by J.B.moneY. View Post
    pac did what he had to do to win, give credit where credit is do.
    You should of just wrote that, cause thats the bottom line...

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      #32
      Originally posted by trainhard_187 View Post
      Well guess what, that wasnt the Oscar that showed up last December so who really cares. In my eyes and the worlds eyes,
      OSCAR DELAHOYA GOT A BEATDOWN BY A SMALLER FIGHTER.

      Give Oscar all the excuses you want, OSCAR DID NOT NEED THIS FIGHT

      Damn, its been almost 6 months and people still trying to give DLH excuses. Maybe the beatdown was intended to give DLH a lesson that he shouldnt be ripping off people with these USELESS matchups when God knew he wasnt even a legitimate contender anymore. Things happen for reason.
      I know all this. I'm not trying to give excuses, I am just trying to say why he lost. He got greedy and decimated himself in order to make weight. He went into the ring a dead man. Any decent contender from 140+ would have beaten him.

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        #33
        c'mon mang... forbes broke dlh's cheek bone and was getting owned by calderon in sparring...

        dlh ain't beating pac.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Kevin Jesus View Post
          Oscar did not call out Pacquiao...Frddie Roach went on record saying Oscar can't pull the trigger anymore and Pacquiao can beat him and KO him, Oscar got angry at those comments and accepted the challenge..Don;t forget De La Hoya's plans was to fight Mayweather in a rematch then that fell apart then it was to fight Miguel Cotto if Cotto would have beaten Margarito...
          actually larry merchant kicked around the idea of oscar de la hoya vs manny pac during a post fight interview!! then roach started talking **** and oscar wanted to see what 147 felt like again so they made it happen!! but the fact is oscar de la hoya was in fact weight drained. how does any one expect a 36 year old part time fighter to drop down to a weight class he has not fought at in over 10 years...oscar was badly weight drained and his new trainer who never worked with oscar before over trained him...there is all kinds of mistaked oscar made for this fight... OSCAR CAN STILL **** AT 154lbs!!!

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            #35
            Originally posted by brently1979 View Post
            I agree with this Post. DLH didn't have to fight Pac. Oscar was the one that asked Manny to Jump two weight Divisions from his last fight.

            Oscar could have asked any of the top Welters to make the Move to 154 for a big fight. No doubt, Cotto or Margarito etc would have jumped at the chance.
            He chooses pacquiao because he believe that it would be an easy fight for him... Ubfortunately, pacquiao's stance backfired and he got the beatings of his life...

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              #36
              "There's no such thing as coulda, shoulda, or woulda. If you shoulda and coulda, you woulda done it."

              Pat Riley

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                #37
                here are the excuses of manny's victims..

                1. Barrera: his training camp caught fire
                2. Morales 3: drained and dehydrated
                3. Marquez: downed 4times, still insisting he should've won
                4. DLH: drained and dehydrated
                5. Hatton: let's wait..

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                  #38
                  ****** thing for him to say this late ... we can only speculate but will never no and it really doesnt matter imo ... but i do think dlh is/was 1 million times better than what he showed on that nite ...

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                    #39
                    It's in the past.

                    Yes, Emanuel Steward is correct that Oscar was weight drained, and that wasn't the "real" Oscar as a fighter that anyone expected that night. The fact remains that Oscar chose Pacquiao for the fight, he chose to come in at his lightest weight in over ten years, and he himself has said he had his doubts coming into the fight during his retirement speech, so I don't see the point in debating this.

                    As far as Oscar returning, I honestly don't see it happening. He lost in crushing and debilitating fashion because he had nothing left as a fighter. There's no shame in admitting the honest truth to yourself, especially when you are a multi-million dollar fighter with his successful own promotional company and everything achieved already. I hope he never comes back personally, he has nothing more to prove and should be glad he accomplished so much for himself and the sport of boxing.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MaFu MoFo View Post
                      TRUE, TRUE... He denied Margarito a fight and went on to challenge the midget "in the name of mexico as revenge for his wins as mexican Slayer"... Oscar is a coward, he is not Mexican.
                      I thought it was because Roach said he couldn't pull the trigger anymore...he was pissed about that. He's a coward who fought 130-160, I mean come on he is not a coward. Its not right to change history conveniently in order to support your argument.

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