Floyd Mayweather vs. prime Roberto Duran at lightweight: who wins?

[IMDAZED]

I like to watch PBF fight. The floydstans however has created a little devil inside me that wants to see him lose. This thread makes that devil a bit bigger.

I know how you feel about Calzaghe now if I didn't know before.

As for the topic I think Duran's run at 135 might be slightly overrated as the depth of the division was considerably less than stellar. Still he was fearsome and the styles matchup between him and Floyd is a boxing classic. I can definetely see the slick Floyd have good success with counters as he does so brilliantly. I can also see Duran's great right hand landing especially as the fight progresses. I doubt it will end in a kayo. In fact I'm as certain as can be that this fight would go the distance.

And that's the key word: Distance. In a 12 rounder I think Floyd takes it. I would think Duran would have more and more success as the fight progresses so in a 15 rounder Duran has a better chance, but at gunpoint I wouldn't give Duran more than a 50/50 shot at winning a 15 round fight.

Great post. I don't see a KO either way and I think it's a close fight. Duran was deceptively quick and his movement was underrated as well. Not Floyd-like but very efficient. But at 135, Floyd seemed uncomfortable with the weight of his opponents (Sosa gave him trouble early on with pressure and Castillo gave him hell). He actually looked stronger at 140. At 135, Duran would unsettle him.

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Great post. I don't see a KO either way and I think it's a close fight. Duran was deceptively quick and his movement was underrated as well. Not Floyd-like but very efficient. But at 135, Floyd seemed uncomfortable with the weight of his opponents (Sosa gave him trouble early on with pressure and Castillo gave him hell). He actually looked stronger at 140. At 135, Duran would unsettle him.

Dazed, Duran was 135 in same day weigh-in, IMO the reference should be 130 Mayweather. Who was weighing 135-139 in the ring (if I am not mistaken).

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gladly

i view technical skills as follows
-jab, straight right hand-cross-uppercut-counterpunching-movment-body positioning-defense-blocking, slipping. left hook to the body, feinting, footwork, upperbody movement. bascially conventional fundamentals-sosa had this over duran. but it was how he threw his punches he stayed sharp,

skills
-unconventional fighting-brawling-not nessicarily unorthodox, just not textbook boxing. duran did jab, i know this, he did go to the body, he did throw overhand rights and left hooks and straight right hands---but in an uncomventional way-more of less he threw those punches like a brawler...can get wild, but was very effective, he wasn't just a brawler, just brawler at best, but he had fundamentals, just had his style that he knew would work. he was a versatile fighter, no doubt, i've never discredited duran, he was a mnoster and amazing fighter, but he would not beat floyd, and sosa's style was more equipped at beating him tan duran's. just my opinion but i strongly believe this.

i just watched duran/barkley last week...and that only intensifies my argument. hell of a fight though. duran was a speial fighter.

as far as the pocket goes, you see that's my point. you gave srl and floyd the best chance at beating him by moving. i highly disagree. srl threw many punches but would brawl you, he was just so dynamic but his inside fight game never impressed, unitl benitez anyway, because of how he defended in the pocket. he had a tendency to want to brawl and throw flurries in the pocket a lot, which i never like because he got hit doing this. and trust me, duran landed thaty overhand right on his ass so i would favor leonard over duran anytime if he moved. floyd's defense in the pocket is too pronounced for duran to really expose his inside game, and i explained the reasons earlier. i am willing to bet, floyd outlands duran on the inside and duran misses many of his shots, i guarantee you this.

there you have it

I was talking about Benny Leonard, I was considering lightweights sized fighters (I could have stretched it and throw in Pryor or even Napoles, who would be around Duran, PBF and Pea's weight) only. Rest of reply to come later. quite busy now.

[BattlingNelson]

Great post. I don't see a KO either way and I think it's a close fight. Duran was deceptively quick and his movement was underrated as well. Not Floyd-like but very efficient. But at 135, Floyd seemed uncomfortable with the weight of his opponents (Sosa gave him trouble early on with pressure and Castillo gave him hell). He actually looked stronger at 140. At 135, Duran would unsettle him.

Yeah but Sosa is an ATG

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gladly

i view technical skills as follows
-jab, straight right hand-cross-uppercut-counterpunching-movment-body positioning-defense-blocking, slipping. left hook to the body, feinting, footwork, upperbody movement. bascially conventional fundamentals-sosa had this over duran. but it was how he threw his punches he stayed sharp,

skills
-unconventional fighting-brawling-not nessicarily unorthodox, just not textbook boxing. duran did jab, i know this, he did go to the body, he did throw overhand rights and left hooks and straight right hands---but in an uncomventional way-more of less he threw those punches like a brawler...can get wild, but was very effective, he wasn't just a brawler, just brawler at best, but he had fundamentals, just had his style that he knew would work. he was a versatile fighter, no doubt, i've never discredited duran, he was a mnoster and amazing fighter, but he would not beat floyd, and sosa's style was more equipped at beating him tan duran's. just my opinion but i strongly believe this.

i just watched duran/barkley last week...and that only intensifies my argument. hell of a fight though. duran was a speial fighter.

as far as the pocket goes, you see that's my point. you gave srl and floyd the best chance at beating him by moving. i highly disagree. srl threw many punches but would brawl you, he was just so dynamic but his inside fight game never impressed, unitl benitez anyway, because of how he defended in the pocket. he had a tendency to want to brawl and throw flurries in the pocket a lot, which i never like because he got hit doing this. and trust me, duran landed thaty overhand right on his ass so i would favor leonard over duran anytime if he moved. floyd's defense in the pocket is too pronounced for duran to really expose his inside game, and i explained the reasons earlier. i am willing to bet, floyd outlands duran on the inside and duran misses many of his shots, i guarantee you this.

there you have it

I have a quick question on the first part. aren't you basically saying something like Duran was not techincal because he was mostly doing the same things that you call "technical skills", but on the front foot? Because every single thing you mentioned, including the defense part, Duran did.

I can't believe I am even talking about this, but it seems to me you are saying that Sosa was more adapt to beating Mayweather than Duran because he fought more conventional. Is that right?

[Walt Liquor]

Yeah but Sosa is an ATG

Duran had semi weak comp at 135? What about Floyd's?

This fight isn't even close. Duran destroys inside of 5 rds.

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Duran had semi weak comp at 135? What about Floyd's?

This fight isn't even close. Duran destroys inside of 5 rds.

Time to have some milk and go to bed.

Kindergarten homework, learn more about both fighters and learn more about the sport.

[hammerhiem]

Yo,

Duhran lost to Willum Joppy lmao. Dis guy izz uh bum. wot did dizz guy do tuh b ranked so higherly ? I ont know no

Mayweather aint neva lost nuffin. Mayweather wud pown Duhran.

I'll leave you appauling grammer and spelling alone and just point out to you that this is Prime Vs Prime at 135.

Duran lost to Joppy aged 47 at 160lb.

You are a think ****, end of discussion.

[Adolf]

I'll leave you appauling grammer and spelling alone and just point out to you that this is Prime Vs Prime at 135.

Duran lost to Joppy aged 47 at 160lb.

You are a think ****, end of discussion.

I was joking.

[hammerhiem]

I was joking.

well stop it, don't you know this is a serious forum for serious boxing discussions!!!11!!!oneone!