Originally posted by Pullcounter
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basede on this, where do you get this definition of p4p?
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no hell no....... how is POUND FOR POUND if there is no change in weight? all of the number one p4p fighters in history move up and won belts in multiple dividion, and made it look easy..........
basede on this, where do you get this definition of p4p? -
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The mistake people make is to judge P4P based on "Well...if Hatton and Roy Jones were the same size...who would win?" Which has nothing to do with it. P4P is based on who you fight and who you beat. That's it. Not who has the most talent or no losses or who would win in a style match up. Pac is P4P #1 because of who he fought and beat. Not because he is the most skilled or because he would beat a prime Roy Jones if they were the same size. He isnt P4P just because he moved up in weight. It's because of who he beat at those weights. Just moving up in weight and winning fights doesnt mean you are better then a guy who stays in one weight class whipping on quality opposition your whole career.Comment
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Although moving up through weight divisions is impressive, i don't think it necessarily means your better than a guy for example who has dominated a weight division for many years against top competition, especially as sometimes physical disadvantages can play a factor like height and reach which can limit a fighters ability to go through divisions, and isn't a testament of your skill at your ideal weight. Fact of the matter is some fighters physically and stylistically, are better suited to going through the weight divisions.
I agree with calderon's interpretation.
For example - Floyd mayweather has gone through 5 weight divisions now, I personally think physically his best weight was probably lw or maybe lww. But here is the question, was he more impressive at that weight then say marvin hagler was at mw or some of the great hw's of all time? Because I don't think he wasComment
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Thread starter is clearly a bit thick. Hatton is top 15 for sure and Calzaghe top 3, how anyone could even question Calzaghe not being top 10 is just ******.
Me thinks he is a Brit hater.Comment
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Calderon is right. You are wrong.Originally posted by a-raines21 View Post
It's got nothing to do with moving up. P4P rankings aren't even official anyway. It is just whobased on opinion. Mine against yours.
P4P is basically, who is the best fighter if weight wasn't an issue. If every fighter weighed the same, who is the most skilled.Comment
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pound 4 pound isn't about who moves up in weight.. pound 4 pound is hypothetically who would win if they were the same natural size. I don't think p4p fighters where ever meant to fight each other though. it would be rediculous to have bernard fight marquez.. or miguel cotto fight hopkins.Comment
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if jmm beat mosley or cotto i'd put him as p4p #1 thoughOriginally posted by Howlin' Wolf View PostComment
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No, there woulnd't be any heavyweights, because heavyweights suck. Heavyweights are usually left off the list based upon the fact that any Heavyweight can KO almost any other Heavyweight.Originally posted by a-raines21 View Post
Are you trying to tell me the p4p list was made for a different reason than the Robinson one? You serious?Comment
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I think if there were heavyeights good enough they would be on there. When tyson was at his peak he was on there, same for holyfield, lewis and others.Originally posted by ..Calderon... View Post
At the moment there are no heavy's that belongComment
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