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    Juan Diaz dosent know how to fight through adversity

    That has to really hurt him the most. Last night through the first six rounds he would putting together a near masterpiece in my eyes. Then a marquez punch opens up a cut again and Juan Diaz just went into, i dont even know what. It was a conservative Juan Diaz that wasnt the one in the early rounds. He gave away pretty much everything after the cut. Marquez took an amazing advantage landing hardshots at will.

    But thats boxing and it happens. I dont feel embarrassed for him one bit by losing to Marquez. I just dont know what he will do from now on to get back into the mix

    It also annoyed me that Ronnie Shields asked him to box some rounds. Juan Diaz was winning rounds on his effective aggression and combination's. Nacho Beristain wanted the fight in the middle of the ring where Marquez did his best work. I dont know why Shields didnt pick up on that. Juan Diaz was owning him on the ropes. Beristain out trained Shields by a mile.
    Last edited by Texanballer; 03-01-2009, 09:41 AM.
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    He lost to one of the best. No shame in that.

    Getting cut messed him up some but those punches to end the fight were right on the button.

    **** like that happens. I don't think 34-2 is a bad record at all when your losses are to champs.

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      #3
      You're kind of right. But it's not like he was clearly winning the fight. I had it even through 6. But the dude left his heart in that ring, there's not much room to criticize. It's clear that blood bothers him, but I don't think it would have made a difference. Marquez is just a much sharper, more accurate puncher, and I think the outcome was inevitable.

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        #4
        The cuts have bothered him but for this fight the cut didn't seem to bother him that much imo. He needs to learn how to clinch though, I hate how some fighters think its a sin to do it. Yeah, a fight with no clinching is more exciting but in boxing you have to be smart. In this fight though Marquez is just simply a better fighter, the punches took their toll. It was a great fight though, Marquez is just better, no shame in that.

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          #5
          It does seem like times he's been cut, he loses focus. Marquez really did a number on him after the cut.

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            #6
            Diaz impressed me last night, He is a good fighter.

            There is no shame in losing to Marquez.

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              #7
              Originally posted by B-Ron View Post
              The cuts have bothered him but for this fight the cut didn't seem to bother him that much imo. He needs to learn how to clinch though, I hate how some fighters think its a sin to do it. Yeah, a fight with no clinching is more exciting but in boxing you have to be smart. In this fight though Marquez is just simply a better fighter, the punches took their toll. It was a great fight though, Marquez is just better, no shame in that.
              Yea, i noticed that. He was blatently hurt but he could still stand and punch yet he refused to clinch? Thats the same when Margarito fought Mosley and Cotto fought Margarito.

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                #8
                Originally posted by texanballer View Post
                That has to really hurt him the most. Last night through the first six rounds he would putting together a near masterpiece in my eyes. Then a marquez punch opens up a cut again and Juan Diaz just went into, i dont even know what. It was a conservative Juan Diaz that wasnt the one in the early rounds. He gave away pretty much everything after the cut. Marquez took an amazing advantage landing hardshots at will.

                But thats boxing and it happens. I dont feel embarrassed for him one bit by losing to Marquez. I just dont know what he will do from now on to get back into the mix

                It also annoyed me that Ronnie Shields asked him to box some rounds. Juan Diaz was winning rounds on his effective aggression and combination's.                 Nacho Beristain wanted the fight in the middle of the ring where Marquez did his best work. I dont know why Shields didnt pick up on that. Juan Diaz was owning him on the ropes. Beristain out trained Shields by a mile.
                EXACTLY. Ronnie Shields is a horrible trainer. You don't go away from something that is working to perfection. Diaz was on his way to a knockout until he started boxing after the 2nd round. That's why I made a thread asking why he quit with the pressure even before Marquez had landed anything significant. It was like he let Marquez back into the fight.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DiegoFuego View Post
                  EXACTLY. Ronnie Shields is a horrible trainer. You don't go away from something that is working to perfection. Diaz was on his way to a knockout until he started boxing after the 2nd round. That's why I made a thread asking why he quit with the pressure even before Marquez had landed anything significant. It was like he let Marquez back into the fight.
                  yeah i feel the same way.

                  The only reason i can think of would be from the nate campbell fight. He tried to fight on aggression him all night and campbell was ripping him apart. His corner told him to try to box and he ignored. I guess he didnt want to ignore them this time around again. BUT this is different in my eyes because Diaz's aggression was tearing marquez apart.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by texanballer View Post
                    That has to really hurt him the most. Last night through the first six rounds he would putting together a near masterpiece in my eyes. Then a marquez punch opens up a cut again and Juan Diaz just went into, i dont even know what. It was a conservative Juan Diaz that wasnt the one in the early rounds. He gave away pretty much everything after the cut. Marquez took an amazing advantage landing hardshots at will.

                    But thats boxing and it happens. I dont feel embarrassed for him one bit by losing to Marquez. I just dont know what he will do from now on to get back into the mix

                    It also annoyed me that Ronnie Shields asked him to box some rounds. Juan Diaz was winning rounds on his effective aggression and combination's. Nacho Beristain wanted the fight in the middle of the ring where Marquez did his best work. I dont know why Shields didnt pick up on that. Juan Diaz was owning him on the ropes. Beristain out trained Shields by a mile.
                    This was all Marquez, Diaz was effective with his pressure early but he was getting hit with hard counterpunches. As the fight went on Marquez made adjustments, blocked most of Diaz shots and effectively countered Diaz with flush shots. The cut had nothing to do with it, Marquez just wore him down and knocked him out.

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