actually hopkins did back out of a fight in 2002 after it was signed.but yes you are right obviously roy jones never ducked any opponents in his prime
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Originally posted by cassiusthegreat View Postactually hopkins did back out of a fight in 2002 after it was signed.but yes you are right obviously roy jones never ducked any opponents in his prime
And there's a lot more to that story than the Calzaghe fans will let on but we've been over this about a billion times.
Verbal agreement != signed.
Please name the fighters that Jones "ducked". This is always a hilarious waste of time.
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Originally posted by Ishy Aytan View PostAlso Calzaghe's the same guy that said Pavlik said 'no' to a fight with him when we all know Pavlik called him out numerous times after Calzaghe beat Hopkins.
Calzaghe lies quite a bit.
I didnt think pavlik could beat calz, but atleast keep half your word and fight pavlik.
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Originally posted by bsrizpac View PostSince Calzaghe's fans are basically mostly cowards that put people on ignore when they can't handle the truth:
Let me just say this, the thesis of threads like that is completely wrong.
Making a thread like that and stating that he fought everyone in the SMW division is fine. He did.
Pointing out that the SMW was and is still **** is also fine. It is. People should not get **** for that response, because it's true.
Also when talking about Joe vs. Roy OR Bernard:
Get this straight- it's always incumbent on the guy with LESS popularity to make fights happen. Period.
Not the guy with the bargaining power. I know this statement will invariably fly by most of the nuthuggers but consider it closely.
Saying no one wanted a piece of Joe or "no one wanted to know" is ******ed. It's never the champs fault to chase after some guy with a WBO trinket (back then it was) or for him to see out challengers (Roy vs. Joe). This makes no sense. And if a guy is more popular again, he historically doesn't seek out guys who are obscure. It's not his job to make them a star (Hopkins vs. Joe).
If Joe REALLY wanted these fights back then, he would have taken the Tarver route. Joe had too much ego and considered himself the "real champion" and never pursued it like he should have if he really wanted the fame he thought he deserved.
Also saying Roy ducked Joe or Roy pulled out fights against Joe is insane.
Is it his "fault" his resume is average? That's debatable. But it is what it is.
That says it all.
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Originally posted by Bob Anomaly View PostIm a Calzaghe fan, and its a damn shame he didnt fight in USA years ago to get popular enough to call out Jones, Toney, Hopkins when they were at there best (eventhough they were not SMW).
Those fights should of happened.
I will add that it would've been nice for Calzaghe to have had a real trainer as well.
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