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    #11
    Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
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    Ps Tunney has just made one his threads, so hes about, lets see if he can resist doing a sermon about the plight of european boxers.

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      #12
      It is bad. Your takin credit for crap you ain't do. Be it Mexican or Puerto Rican, havin to hear "Yeah! but we beat ya so and so times" Its annoying

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        #13
        Originally posted by Low Blow Armo View Post
        Its not necessary but it's bigger in boxing than any other sport. If you wanted to see racial ignorance, you should've been at the Honda Center for the Darchinyan/Arce fight. It wouldve made you puke.
        Yeah Boxing is probably the worst Sport for building racial tension, because they push the nationalistic BS to sell more tickets etc.

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          #14
          and if you silence these ppl then you cover up there agenda, disguise there views and make even more racism, if you except we have diffrent races and dont make a big deal out of it you are going in the right direction to breaking down the barriers

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            #15
            I think it's an inevitability in boxing because it's in the DNA of the sport. You get two guys from different countries, polarize the audience and let 'er rip. You will have fights in the audience between the different ethnic groups, ridiculously high insurance rates but the fans will continue to put money in the promoter's pocket.

            Frankly, I think it's sad how people in a city usually won't adopt a fighter as their own, but only members of his own ethnic community will support him.

            In the NBA, if you're a New Yorker, you support your team the Knicks. By the same token, shouldn't everyone from Jersey City support Tomasz Adamek, and not just Polish people? Or shouldn't everyone in Brooklyn support Paulie Malignaggi, and not just Italians?

            I think this is just what we have to work with because boxers are interchangeable, there are no lasting dynasties like the Yankees or the Celtics. There are systems in place that keep the sport running the same counter-productive way that only benefits short-term gains and doesn't contribute to the sport's growth.

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              #16
              Forget sports. Racial PRIDE is wrong, period.

              You should never be PROUD of anything you don't have to ACCOMPLISH. You can be happy or even REALLY happy to see someone succeed if they have certain things in common with you or how you grow up. That's a natural. But to take pride in something that is essentially an accident is ******, IMO.

              In boxing, it happens more and it's pretty pathetic, really.

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                #17
                Originally posted by lest26 View Post
                and if you silence these ppl then you cover up there agenda, disguise there views and make even more racism, if you except we have diffrent races and dont make a big deal out of it you are going in the right direction to breaking down the barriers
                I think your right, but have you noticed, if you dont make a big deal out of it people will say stop burying your head in the sand ?

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                  #18
                  Annoying. Vicariously living through the achievements of someone with the same skin tone as you? Oh, how cool.

                  But then, as much as national and racial pride bothers me, I do sometimes think that maybe it's not the worst reason to support a fighter. I mean, we wouldn't begrudge someone from Youngstown supporting Pavlik, so....in that sense, is being behind something who you at least can identify with on a certain level (race) really that bad? I guess not. I've got trivial reasons for liking some fighters, so this has its merit.

                  The problem is when ****s like Tunney and Flawless stink the place up with their racial posturing, conspiracy theories, bragging. That's when it's a major irritance.

                  I'm just glad that I'm not one of those ****ing freaks who is all twisted up because of racial allegiance, and can just enjoy this wonderful sport without that garbage.

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                    #19
                    actualy in a sense you do achieve your race, in the sense its taken tens of thousands of years for your race to evolve and develop, only circumstance has brought races together in the past 100 years or so on the scale we see today, dont foget tribes of races were fighting for there land and there tribes usualy of the same race for as long as we have a record.

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                      #20
                      I think it's important to distinguish between ethnic pride and racial pride. It's one thing to be supportive because a fighter shares your ethnic or national background and it's another thing to support someone because of their skin color. That's getting into racism.

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