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    #61
    Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
    The evidence is there of the two fights. It's like you want to take it or interpretate that is the problem.

    For example, the Kennedy conspiracy. Everyone knows that he was murdered by the government, and they let that pass. Another example, the case of OJ Simpson, everyone knows that he killed his wife, the jury, the public, even the judge who presided over the trial knows that he killed his wife. But what they did? They let him free. So dont tell me that a boxing commission would not do it to look better to the public and other committees.
    Aside from the wraps confiscated from Mosley show me evidence from the Cotto fight.

    Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
    So dont tell me that a boxing commission would not do it to look better to the public and other committees.
    It would make them look worse if they don't blame anybody, all of this commotion and suspensions for nothing.

    And according to your logic, did the government look good after covering it up, and did the judge who declared OJ not guilty look good by declaring him innocent. No. They actually became scrutinized by the media and the public.

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      #62
      Originally posted by DUnknown1 View Post
      Aside from the wraps confiscated from Mosley show me evidence from the Cotto fight.



      It would make them look worse if they don't blame anybody, all of this commotion and suspensions for nothing.

      And according to your logic, did the government look good after covering it up, and did the judge who declared OJ not guilty look good by declaring him innocent. No. They actually became scrutinized by the media and the public.
      You are right on that. I kind of overthought the issue.

      About the Cotto fight look at the video of margos Corners asking him how is the punch, look at Cottos face and compare it to Collins. Listen to Collins Sr testimony, look at the picture of Margos handwraps all blody right after the Cotto fight, and read when Naz says the hard gauze with plaster like substance, was wet, hard and bloodie. Look at how Margarito look against Mosley, when they took his wraps away.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
        You are right on that. I kind of overthought the issue.

        About the Cotto fight look at the video of margos Corners asking him how is the punch, look at Cottos face and compare it to Collins. Listen to Collins Sr testimony, look at the picture of Margos handwraps all blody right after the Cotto fight, and read when Naz says the hard gauze with plaster like substance, was wet, hard and bloodie. Look at how Margarito look against Mosley, when they took his wraps away.
        As the lawyers would say it: all of your evidence is circumstantial. You can't prove anything from the Cotto fight. There's been fights where opponents end up worse than Cotto did. I can show you a lot of pictures from the internet of the outcomes after a hard fought battles and believe me some of them are worst than Cotto's.
        The comments made from his trainer of "how is the punch" can mean a lot of things, such as how is Cotto's punch or strength. (This has already been posted in another thread.)

        Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
        Naz says the hard gauze with plaster like substance, was wet, hard and bloodie.
        What Naz found is the smoking gun, however it only finds cheating in the Mosley match.

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          #64
          He cheated in the cotto fight even if you can see it or not. they were nervous. Margarito answered dont know. what the hell he doesn't know if Cotto punches hard? He knew how Cotto punches from the first round. They ask the question by the third round because they wanted to know if the plaster got hard.

          Check the paul williams and cintron fights vs Margarito , they never asked him how hard they hit. and those two punch harder than cotto. Hell I've never known of any boxer being ask such ridiculous question. Some people dont want to know the truth.

          After Margarito says no se, the cutman says good good. The trainer in the middle would had smacked the cutman if he could. cotto was already marked in the face by the 2nd or 3rd round and thats considering that most of Margarito punches were bodyshots.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Saronic View Post
            He cheated in the cotto fight even if you can see it or not. they were nervous. Margarito answered dont know. what the hell he doesn't know if Cotto punches hard? He knew how Cotto punches from the first round. They ask the question by the third round because they wanted to know if the plaster got hard.

            Check the paul williams and cintron fights vs Margarito , they never asked him how hard they hit. and those two punch harder than cotto. Hell I've never known of any boxer being ask such ridiculous question. Some people dont want to know the truth.

            After Margarito says no se, the cutman says good good. The trainer in the middle would had smacked the cutman if he could. cotto was already marked in the face by the 2nd or 3rd round and thats considering that most of Margarito punches were bodyshots.

            Again you are basing yourself on pure speculation....
            And come on, with a fighter who only blocks punches with his face, his trainer asking him how is the power of Miguel's punches is only natural.
            His trainer asked that because Marg was being hit by solid, clean punches. The number of clean solid punches he recieved was nowhere near the same ammount he took in either the William's fight or the Cintron fight.
            Sure Williams threw an exorbitant amount of punches, but nowhere near the amount of solid power punches Cotto threw.

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              #66
              Originally posted by DUnknown1 View Post
              Again you are basing yourself on pure speculation....
              And come on, with a fighter who only blocks punches with his face, his trainer asking him how is the power of Miguel's punches is only natural.
              His trainer asked that because Marg was being hit by solid, clean punches. The number of clean solid punches he recieved was nowhere near the same ammount he took in either the William's fight or the Cintron fight.
              Sure Williams threw an exorbitant amount of punches, but nowhere near the amount of solid power punches Cotto threw.
              I agree with you and not only that but if I remember correctly Cotto was walking into Tony's uppercuts all night.

              Originally posted by Saronic View Post
              He cheated in the cotto fight even if you can see it or not. they were nervous. Margarito answered dont know. what the hell he doesn't know if Cotto punches hard? He knew how Cotto punches from the first round. They ask the question by the third round because they wanted to know if the plaster got hard.

              Check the paul williams and cintron fights vs Margarito , they never asked him how hard they hit. and those two punch harder than cotto. Hell I've never known of any boxer being ask such ridiculous question. Some people dont want to know the truth.

              After Margarito says no se, the cutman says good good. The trainer in the middle would had smacked the cutman if he could. cotto was already marked in the face by the 2nd or 3rd round and thats considering that most of Margarito punches were bodyshots.
              I see what you are trying to say but like I said Cotto was leaning into uppercuts throughout the fight, now I'm not an expert in Physics but I'm sure if you keep leaning into an uppercut with your face, it will show the affects, especially if that uppercut came from a professional boxer.
              Last edited by LilGizmo562; 02-05-2009, 02:45 AM.

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                #67
                Bump!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
                  Bump!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
                  All I see here is a bunch of speculation and heresay!!


                  But like I said ****m himself could come out and say "Hey guys I was just joking about the whole thing" and you will still call call Tony a cheat.

                  So why bump the thread when you are gonna hate on the guy no matter what happens tomarrow?

                  I know you dont have the Cojones to actually accept Tony being innocent.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
                    All I see here is a bunch of speculation and heresay!!


                    But like I said ****m himself could come out and say "Hey guys I was just joking about the whole thing" and you will still call call Tony a cheat.

                    So why bump the thread when you are gonna hate on the guy no matter what happens tomarrow?

                    I know you dont have the Cojones to actually accept Tony being innocent.
                    Look men if he is fund Innocent and Naz admits it was a mind game, ill admit he is innocent and I will STFU. But whats the chances of him being innocent for the Mosley fight???

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
                      whats the chances of him being innocent for the Mosley fight???
                      Pretty high since nobody outside the California state boxing commission knows what the actual evidence is.

                      Even ESPN doesn't know what the *** is going on!!!!

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