Miguel Cotto-Antonio Margarito Eyed For June 13 in NY

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

No! I'm talkin about at the time that they faught. Ofcourse he doesn't

Ok My bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[crillz]

thing is people forget it was COTTO himself asking for the rematch, HE wants to face Tony more than what Tony wants to face him and even now much more because of the allegations. he was getting the better of the fight up until the 10th-11th round(depending on your scoring) and went down from knee's, knee's that were taken due to exhaustion and fatigue, he threw everything he just didn't hit the body which if you check my post history I have said MANY times that this was something Cotto made the mistake of abandoning, his most notable thing and he didn't use it, body punching. he lost but he's moved on, it was him who asked that a Margarito rematch be put together because he wanted to avenge it..

I'm just mad because I wanted Tony to bring Cotto's belts back to him in the rematch, that it could be champion vs champion and not champion vs challenger, this is why I wanted and picked Margarito to beat Mosley so that it would go down that way but Mosley just did it first, and in the process painted the perfect game plan for Cotto, executed it and put a HIGH alert on his hands wraps which could turn out to be a factor in the rematch. do I think Tony cheated? hell ****ing no, Antonio Margarito got more integrity than your average, he came up old school and respects the game to it's fullest so I doubt a warrior like himself would allow such dirt bag **** to happen but his trainer? his camp? I smell suttin fishy there, *****z need to check up on them, get to the bottom of this because they making Margarito do what Luis Resto did, they sending him into fights carrying plaster in his gloves on top of however naturally strong he already is.

do I think his men illegally wrapped his hands in the Cotto fight? well be the judge, where was that meat carving power at? where were those uppercuts at? the punch output and damage done in single blows? there was a lot missing and Margarito looked super average against Shane, far from the guy who showed up on July 26th. I think unknowingly Margarito had that substance in his hands, when it was removed his power and punch impact was dramatically decreased, he was no longer the same fighter. all that on top of Shane's brilliant game plan completely derailed Tony. I want to see the same caution taken with Margarito against Cotto in June.. I honestly believe Tony is a clean fighter who is the victim of illegal handling but that doesn't stop the substance from being plaster, picture fighting a ***** with plastered hands? you'll ****in be brain dead. I'm not saying, as fact, that Margarito's hands were illegally wrapped against Cotto, I'm saying it as opinion. the ONLY fact here is that on July 26th Antonio Margarito beat Miguel Cotto and he gets all the credit fot that, he's a warrior man and regardless whatever they say I will always respect him even if there IS some dirty **** happening, I'm 100% sure he will not have known..

[realheavyhands]

******. Who cares about this fight right now, other than people who just want to see Margarito exposed? Cotto-Mosley 2 is the fight that needs to happen.

yea mosley needs to knock out cotto so the judges cant be swayed by the crowd..or fight pacqioua... if i were mosley i would fight cotto pac and forrest..winky's still way to big.. forrest is way too big but mosley will beat him at this point.. then id retire.. floyd who? hahaha

[Sin City]

Ok, so if you have doubts about Mosley taking steroids(which I think he took). Remember cops take polygraph tests and you still see corrupted cops out there....why can't it apply to Margarito?? Nothing has came back yet from the investigation.

Cops take polygraph test but what does that have to do with anything??
They don't ask you are you going to be a curropt cop. They don't ask you if you have good intentions.
The questions involve like: have you ever fantasized about having *** with children?, etc.
They also ask you about your drug history and stuff of that nature.

I know because I'm going to have to take it soon and my major is criminal justice.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Cops take polygraph test but what does that have to do with anything??
They don't ask you are you going to be a curropt cop. They don't ask you if you have good intentions.
The questions involve like: have you ever fantasized about having *** with children?, etc.
They also ask you about your drug history and stuff of that nature.

I know because I'm going to have to take it soon and my major is criminal justice.

O ****, off topic, good luck with that...I had that as my major for a bit in college but switched to risk management.

What I'm trying to say is, just cause you take a polygraph test doesn't mean you didn't lie, there is always room for error.

[Sin City]

O ****, off topic, good luck with that...I had that as my major for a bit in college but switched to risk management.

What I'm trying to say is, just cause you take a polygraph test doesn't mean you didn't lie, there is always room for error.

Yeah, you are right..

Thanks, why did you switch? didn't like it?
It is some hard ass work! lol
I'm having doubts too right now. I originally thought you only had to work 3 years on the beat to be elligable to apply for homicide but turns out it's 5 to 7 in Nevada and even then you aren't guaranteed to get in. That's what I really want to do.
I was going to see if I could start volunteering at the morgue to get myself mentally prepared but ****.. seven years with no guarantee?
**** sucks..

[Mr. Fantastic]

Yeah, you are right..

Thanks, why did you switch? didn't like it?
It is some hard ass work! lol
I'm having doubts too right now. I originally thought you only had to work 3 years on the beat to be elligable to apply for homicide but turns out it's 5 to 7 in Nevada and even then you aren't guaranteed to get in. That's what I really want to do.
I was going to see if I could start volunteering at the morgue to get myself mentally prepared but ****.. seven years with no guarantee?
**** sucks..

Not at all, its one of those things that make me think though if I were to of done that instead. The classes were never boring unlike my major lol. I have couple of really good friends that are cops, and they tell me some pretty funny stuff. Was roomates with one for 2 years, throwing house parties and getting away with it was pretty fucking awesome.

[BennyST]

That leaves nobody available for Mosley's next fight except Mayweather or Forrest

Mosley could still get another fight with any of the other top welters. Clottey is available, as well as Williams after his next fight. Both of those guys are the big welterweights apart from Mosley now. None of them have fought each other, so what better way to decide the best than to get stuck into it.

On Margarito/Cotto II, I really think this is a terrible idea by Cotto's team if they decide to go forward with it. There is a chance that he may not have learned anything from their first fight and lose the second one again. If that happens, because of the significance of Margarito's loss, Cotto will struggle to ever get up to the top of the hill again. A second loss to a guy that just got utterly annihilated by Mosley, someone who Cotto beat, could spell massive disaster for his career.

I can understand it from a learning/revenge point of view. If Cotto has learned what he needed to, and he should have and should be able to beat Margarito quite well, it will be a great thing for him and his confidence. But, now that Margarito lost so badly, it's highly possible that at the age of 30 and with the punishment he has taken over the last couple of fights he could be declining fast. That could help Cotto of course but it may also put Margarito back into the spotlight and Cotto into no man's land if Cotto loses. Now that Margarito has lost to two of the top welterweights in Mosley and Williams he will now be seen as someone easily avoidable. He is still a hard fight for anyone, not named Mosley, and would present a high risk/reward factor for whoever fights him.

I don't know. I can see the use of fighting him, and fighting him now, because it will negate the only loss on his record and give him back his confidence and also help him to learn that you need to be able to fight more than one way to beat everyone. If he loses though, it could really ruin the position that he is in right now. Margarito is thought to have used the plaster stuff against Cotto, and without it he just got blasted out by Mosley who Cotto already beat. If he goes and beats Mosley again, it puts him straight back to the top without any need to fight Margarito again. Of course that leaves the only blip on his record unavenged and leaves a hole there for others to exploit and look at forever. Hard decision. If he studies the Mosley win over Marg though, he should be able to handle Marg easily next time, especially with him just coming off the only, and a viciously brutal, knockout loss of his career.

[Sin City]

Not at all, its one of those things that make me think though if I were to of done that instead. The classes were never boring unlike my major lol. I have couple of really good friends that are cops, and they tell me some pretty funny stuff. Was roomates with one for 2 years, throwing house parties and getting away with it was pretty fucking awesome.

yeah, I've heard some crazy ****! I think the prostetution busts stories are the best though.

[BennyST]

where was that meat carving power at? where were those uppercuts at? the punch output and damage done in single blows? there was a lot missing and Margarito looked super average against Shane, far from the guy who showed up on July 26th.

Nah, it was the same fighter that turned up, it was just the game plan that Mosley executed was done to absolute perfection. You saw the same thing could have happened easily with Cotto, but he did not execute his game plan well at all. Margarito is a classic example of a fighter that simply cannot fight any other way apart from his way. If you can stop him coming forward and stop him working on the inside you completely nullify his only weapons.

Mosley had the speed, experience and power to do all of the above. His trainers also had the Cotto fight to work with. They saw the plan that could be used to beat Margarito with ease, and the faults that made Cotto vulnerable. Mosley was able to focus his plan and work those faults out of the fight perfectly. As you also said the body attack was a massive part of what beat Margarito as well. You could see the body shots from round one really hurting Margarito. I also think that Mosley's reach advantage was an important factor in being able to go to the body so well. Some of the shots that Mosley landed to Margarito's body were really vicious and spot on. It was those shots that eventually did him in. The perfect fight by him. It was Mosley's greatest fight in my opinion. Just brilliant, and it was against a guy that was in top shape and in the peak of his powers just coming off the biggest victory of his career.



Cotto allowed Margarito to fight his fight, Mosley didn't and that was what got him the big victory. Same fighter in a different fight against a better trained, better prepared opponent with a perfect game plan. If you watch the Cotto fight, you can see that Cotto never clinches, he never threw his combo's and then got in close to stop Margarito from coming back with his own, and he never used angles to stop and turn Margarito the way Mosley did. Whenever he landed a combination Cotto would then start moving to get out of range which falls into Marg's fight. He wants to be pushing you back always and fighting off the front foot. Cotto allowed himself to get caught on the ropes, which again, Mosley did not. You see numerous times whenever his back touches the ropes he literally jumps forward into a clinch with Marg and turns him, not allowing him to get that momentum he needed. Cotto didn't do any of that and it cost him the fight in a big way.