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    #31
    Originally posted by BatTheMan View Post
    If his wraps were illegal against Mosley a rematch will have to wait Margarito's return from a long stay behind bars.
    i agree completely!!! who knows how long hes been doing it but if any fight needs to be investigated its the Cotto fight!!

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      #32
      Originally posted by BatTheMan View Post
      If his wraps were illegal against Mosley a rematch will have to wait Margarito's return from a long stay behind bars.
      Did you see this?

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        #33
        Originally posted by TheManchine View Post
        Felix Trinidad didn't go to jail.

        The Resto-Collins fight was worse because not only did Resto use plastered handwraps, Panama Lewis had also taken off the padding from his gloves which made Resto's fists hard as rocks.

        That fight was very brutal and Collins suffered permanent damage which ended his career, Cotto was bleeding badly but aside from his cuts he suffered no injuries.

        I do think that Cotto's cuts and bleeding affected the way the fight went, perhaps Margarito wouldn't have done as much damage to his face so quickly if he hadn't used plastered gloves.
        They removed an oz of padding as well that's correct.

        Regarding the injuries suffered by Collins it doesn't really matter as the intent to turn a dangerous sport deadly was (and is?) there. Resto got 3 years in jail and Panama Lewis got 6 and a US permaban.

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          #34
          Originally posted by xfiles View Post
          Did you see this?
          Oh yeah. Su****ions about every Margarito fight is bound to follow.
          Originally posted by TheManchine View Post
          Felix Trinidad didn't go to jail.
          Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember that no solid evidence was found? I'm not to familiar with this case. Anybody knows the details?

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            #35
            A rematch will be the best option, as far as the cheating goes, Mosley and Vargas used illegal subtances, Tito overwrapped his hands, this thing happens..

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              #36
              Originally posted by Tricky Lopez View Post
              Surely a rematch will give clear indication whether Marg wore them in the first fight.
              what good will a rematch do if Margo did use them and as a result Cotto lost some brain cells?

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                #37
                Originally posted by Tricky Lopez View Post
                Surely a rematch will give clear indication whether Marg wore them in the first fight.
                only a rematch will verify if margarito cheated. if he did, cotto should whup margarito. if margarito didnt cheat cotto loses again.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Sin City View Post
                  what good will a rematch do if Margo did use them and as a result Cotto lost some brain cells?
                  how do you know cotto's loss of brain cells is from margo punches and not all the alcohol cotto likes to imbibe?

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                    #39
                    put it like this, why the **** would margarito feel the need to cheat vs mosley? the guy was on top of the welterweight world.he must have felt invincible after taking all thos shots from cotto, then to beat him too a pulp.it shouldn't even be a question.it should be pretty ****ing obvious.coming from a fight he needed to win, this was his biggest fight. the rest of his career depended on it.so why would he feel the need to cheat mosley? its simple, because he's probably done it before.there is no doubt in my mind he cheated cotto.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by -√ictory- View Post
                      put it like this, why the **** would margarito feel the need to cheat vs mosley? the guy was on top of the welterweight world.he must have felt invincible after taking all thos shots from cotto, then to beat him too a pulp.it shouldn't even be a question.it should be pretty ****ing obvious.coming from a fight he needed to win, this was his biggest fight. the rest of his career depended on it.so why would he feel the need to cheat mosley? its simple, because he's probably done it before.there is no doubt in my mind he cheated cotto.
                      I agree. I THINK he has done it before.

                      Now how about his trainer? Which other fighters does he train?

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