Pacquiao vs. Cotto is Possible, Says Evangelista

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Looks like Packy wants to fight another QUITTER lol. But still, Roach would make Cotto fight at a catch weight of 140 just to give manny the advantage. Roach would be damned if he put manny in the ring with a top WW and in his PRIME. Cotto by KO in under 5 rounds.

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ring with a top WW and in his PRIME. Cotto by KO in under 5 rounds.

Cotto wouldn't KO pac in 5 rounds at 147 lbs, but he'd beat pac up pretty badly and roach would have to stop the fight late.

at 140 or a catchweight, pac actually has a chance to beat cotto because of cotto's stamina problems and pac is as strong late as early in the fight.

[We want Floyd]

Looks like Packy wants to fight another QUITTER lol. But still, Roach would make Cotto fight at a catch weight of 140 just to give manny the advantage. Roach would be damned if he put manny in the ring with a top WW and in his PRIME. Cotto by KO in under 5 rounds.

If Cotto were to ko PAC, I don't think it's gonna be that early, unless he unleashes his low blows again. Alot of fighters have said, including the greats he had demolished, say PAC's rhythm and awkwardness is very difficult to get a good feel for. Cotto's left hook ain't gonna find its mark that early, unless PAC decides to go toe to toe.

If you look at Cotto's fights where he had problems, were against movers and a lefty, see his fights against Malignaggi and Zab.

[bestboxingonly]

A catch weight at 144 would be good for this bout. Pacquaio is fighting at 140 and small at ww while Cotto going down by 3 lbs wouldn't be problem. I think this won't be a problem with Arum either as long it will generate at least 1.5 mil ppv and Manny is retiring by end of next year. Lets get it on.

[internetworld7]

I'd much rather see Pacquiao vs. Klitchco. Now that's a real fight.

[LRcie03]

Miguel Cotto needs to get past his challenges first. If he gets past Margarito in the rematch then I can see that fight becoming a demand but if he gets slaughtered again then it doesn't make sense for Cotto to get a Pac fight especially when there are other guys out there deserving of the chance/opportunity. Miguel Cotto to me still has a lot to prove before putting him up there on a peddle stool.

Miguel was supposed to get past Margarito then he would have been on a Pacquiao/Mayweather level but he blew it! Lets see what he does against Jennings and the rematch with Margarito before we go putting him in the ring with the best #1 P4P in the world.

What???? We have to stop this guys. Why are we comparing Manny Pacquiao to Floyd Mayweather? When we compare side to side Manny's record and Mayweather's record AT THE SAME WEIGHT CLASSES, you will find that Mayweather has defeated more quality opponents than Manny has. Along the way to 147, Mayweather has tested himself against more quality opponents than Manny. Then we will consider Manny vs. Cotto.

Lets break down statistics:

First Point - Their Respective Records
Mayweathers'

Manfredy, Corrales, Chavez at 130

Castillo (twice) and N'Dou at 135

Corley, Bruseles, and Gatti at 140

Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Hatton at 147

Oscar at 154

These are all fights that Mayweather has either been tested in, or has learned something about fighters in that division. Now lets look at Manny's record at the respective weight classes, i'll throw in 126 as well even though Manny WAS NOT FIGHTING FIGHTERS AT THAT WEIGHT CLASS THAT WOULD PREPARE HIM FOR A CAMPAIGN AT 140-147

Marco Antonio Barrera and Juan Manuel Marquez (a Draw) at 126

Erik Morales 3 times (Lost the first time, remember PBF is undefeated), Oscar Larios, Jorge Solis, Marco Antonio Barrera, and Juan Manuel Marquez at 130

David Diaz at 135
Oscar De la Hoya at 147


Notice the diverse opponents that Mayweather has faced, Manny has faced the same opponents a lot of the time. Did he get tougher? Yes. And he even gained skill along the way, we saw his defense improve, his decrease of dependence on his straight left hand etc.. Point here is that Mayweather has always had great ability, with his fights, he was adjusting with the different weight classes and merely refining already great skill.


Second Point - Mayweather has always fought a diverse population of fighters in the United States
Floyd, although facing weaker opponents/ journey man when he was building his career, faced a DIVERSE population of opponents while Manny fought his first 34 or so fights mainly in the Philippines Japan. Nothing against those two counties, but everyone in boxing knows that the best fighters fight in the United States. I'm sure Manny has faced some stiff competition in his hometown, but I would question the increase of his intelligence and ability that would improve him on a world class level as a result of those fights.


Third Point - Mayweather has been going to boxing school since he was born.
Mayweather was trained as a child by his Father and Uncle who have themselves fought on a world class level (collectively facing the great Sugar Ray Leonard and Julio Caesar Chavez) as a result developed tremendous skill, ability, intelligence, and instinct. They instilled this into Mayweather early.

This important title speaks for himself. If you are being trained as a kid by two very good fighters who have been in the ring with legendary fighters, you are going to develop amazing ability and intelligence. Manny Pacquiao did not have the opportunity to receive the same education. Mayweather has been going to boxing school since he was born.


Fourth Point
Floyd has fought 1 fight at 154, 4 fights at 147, 3 fights at 140, 5 fights at 135, and 26 fights between 129 and 133

Since we are comparing fights at similar weight classes, lets look at Manny's stats at 129 and above.

Many has fought 8 fights at 130, 1 fight at 135, and 1 fight at 147. Lets go ahead and include 4 fights at 126.

The point i'm making here is that Mayweather has slowly and smartly progressed his way up in weight, taking on fighters and testing his ability along the way. This is important when it comes to understanding opponents punching power and speed, also the way a boxer is effected by the two.

I understand that Manny comes in at 147, but he is not testing himself against good fighters at those divisions he is jumping into, and when he faces a Mayweather, Hatton, or Cotto he is going to run into more trouble than had he took his time. I'm not saying he looses, but he is at a disadvantage.


Fifth and Last Point - Regarding Cotto
Now that we have discovered why Pacquiao and Mayweather are not the same monster, Mayweather being the more experienced, naturally gifted, greatly helped intelligence since birth by family members, slowly progressed in higher weight etc... lets not put Pac Man on the same level as Mayweather. PLEASE DO NOT PUT PAC ON MAYWEATHER's LEVEL.

Regarding Miguel.. For me, just looking at his skills and ability, it looks like he is more technically sound than Manny, but not by that much. The thing that sticks out to me is Cotto's power and natural weight size. He is really big, and he is not going to weight in at 145 then come in at 147 like ODLH, he is going to come in big.

But this is where I am going to give Manny some credit. He has been in some wars, and he has shown great improvement of skill. Also he has a better trainer than Cotto does. Additionally we do not know Cotto's mental state as of yet after the ****rito fight. Lets see how Cotto does against Jennings, then I think the Cotto-Pac Man discussion can be more meaningful.

Cotto will always be one of my favorite fighters, not just because of his skill, but also because of the heart shown in the Torres and Margarito fight. So when I think about weather Pac-Man can beat Cotto I ask myself, where can Manny take Cotto that he has not already been in the Torres and Margarito fight? Even though Pac has been in wars, NOT AGAINST BIGGER OPPOSITION AS COTTO HAS BEEN. Remember Manny outweighed Oscar fight night, he was the bigger man, Oscar was the taller man.

The more I think about this fight the more the Cotto-Margarito fight comes back into my mind. If Cotto fought Pac Man, then Cotto would be Margarito and Pac Man would be in essence Cotto. And I believe that Emmanuel Steward always knew what the real deal was with the Cotto-Margo fight, Pac Man has been in wars just as Cotto has been, but never against BIGGER opponents, meaning height AND weight, just as Cotto had not been before the Margo fight. Emmanuel Steward saw this, and repeated it constantly. Pac Man has a chance to win with pure skill, just like Cotto can win with pure skill against Margo, but chances are that Pac-Man will be stopped in a Cotto fight, just as Cotto was stopped against Margo!!

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What???? We have to stop this guys. Why are we comparing Manny Pacquiao to Floyd Mayweather? When we compare side to side Manny's record and Mayweather's record AT THE SAME WEIGHT CLASSES, you will find that Mayweather has defeated more quality opponents than Manny has. Along the way to 147, Mayweather has tested himself against more quality opponents than Manny. Then we will consider Manny vs. Cotto.

Lets break down statistics:

First Point - Their Respective Records
Mayweathers'

Manfredy, Corrales, Chavez at 130

Castillo (twice) and N'Dou at 135

Corley, Bruseles, and Gatti at 140

Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Hatton at 147

Oscar at 154

These are all fights that Mayweather has either been tested in, or has learned something about fighters in that division. Now lets look at Manny's record at the respective weight classes, i'll throw in 126 as well even though Manny WAS NOT FIGHTING FIGHTERS AT THAT WEIGHT CLASS THAT WOULD PREPARE HIM FOR A CAMPAIGN AT 140-147

Marco Antonio Barrera and Juan Manuel Marquez (a Draw) at 126

Erik Morales 3 times (Lost the first time, remember PBF is undefeated), Oscar Larios, Jorge Solis, Marco Antonio Barrera, and Juan Manuel Marquez at 130

David Diaz at 135
Oscar De la Hoya at 147


Notice the diverse opponents that Mayweather has faced, Manny has faced the same opponents a lot of the time. Did he get tougher? Yes. And he even gained skill along the way, we saw his defense improve, his decrease of dependence on his straight left hand etc.. Point here is that Mayweather has always had great ability, with his fights, he was adjusting with the different weight classes and merely refining already great skill.


Second Point - Mayweather has always fought a diverse population of fighters in the United States
Floyd, although facing weaker opponents/ journey man when he was building his career, faced a DIVERSE population of opponents while Manny fought his first 34 or so fights mainly in the Philippines Japan. Nothing against those two counties, but everyone in boxing knows that the best fighters fight in the United States. I'm sure Manny has faced some stiff competition in his hometown, but I would question the increase of his intelligence and ability that would improve him on a world class level as a result of those fights.


Third Point - Mayweather has been going to boxing school since he was born.
Mayweather was trained as a child by his Father and Uncle who have themselves fought on a world class level (collectively facing the great Sugar Ray Leonard and Julio Caesar Chavez) as a result developed tremendous skill, ability, intelligence, and instinct. They instilled this into Mayweather early.

This important title speaks for himself. If you are being trained as a kid by two very good fighters who have been in the ring with legendary fighters, you are going to develop amazing ability and intelligence. Manny Pacquiao did not have the opportunity to receive the same education. Mayweather has been going to boxing school since he was born.


Fourth Point
Floyd has fought 1 fight at 154, 4 fights at 147, 3 fights at 140, 5 fights at 135, and 26 fights between 129 and 133

Since we are comparing fights at similar weight classes, lets look at Manny's stats at 129 and above.

Many has fought 8 fights at 130, 1 fight at 135, and 1 fight at 147. Lets go ahead and include 4 fights at 126.

The point i'm making here is that Mayweather has slowly and smartly progressed his way up in weight, taking on fighters and testing his ability along the way. This is important when it comes to understanding opponents punching power and speed, also the way a boxer is effected by the two.

I understand that Manny comes in at 147, but he is not testing himself against good fighters at those divisions he is jumping into, and when he faces a Mayweather, Hatton, or Cotto he is going to run into more trouble than had he took his time. I'm not saying he looses, but he is at a disadvantage.


Fifth and Last Point - Regarding Cotto
Now that we have discovered why Pacquiao and Mayweather are not the same monster, Mayweather being the more experienced, naturally gifted, greatly helped intelligence since birth by family members, slowly progressed in higher weight etc... lets not put Pac Man on the same level as Mayweather. PLEASE DO NOT PUT PAC ON MAYWEATHER's LEVEL.

Regarding Miguel.. For me, just looking at his skills and ability, it looks like he is more technically sound than Manny, but not by that much. The thing that sticks out to me is Cotto's power and natural weight size. He is really big, and he is not going to weight in at 145 then come in at 147 like ODLH, he is going to come in big.

But this is where I am going to give Manny some credit. He has been in some wars, and he has shown great improvement of skill. Also he has a better trainer than Cotto does. Additionally we do not know Cotto's mental state as of yet after the ****rito fight. Lets see how Cotto does against Jennings, then I think the Cotto-Pac Man discussion can be more meaningful.

Cotto will always be one of my favorite fighters, not just because of his skill, but also because of the heart shown in the Torres and Margarito fight. So when I think about weather Pac-Man can beat Cotto I ask myself, where can Manny take Cotto that he has not already been in the Torres and Margarito fight? Even though Pac has been in wars, NOT AGAINST BIGGER OPPOSITION AS COTTO HAS BEEN. Remember Manny outweighed Oscar fight night, he was the bigger man, Oscar was the taller man.

The more I think about this fight the more the Cotto-Margarito fight comes back into my mind. If Cotto fought Pac Man, then Cotto would be Margarito and Pac Man would be in essence Cotto. And I believe that Emmanuel Steward always knew what the real deal was with the Cotto-Margo fight, Pac Man has been in wars just as Cotto has been, but never against BIGGER opponents, meaning height AND weight, just as Cotto had not been before the Margo fight. Emmanuel Steward saw this, and repeated it constantly. Pac Man has a chance to win with pure skill, just like Cotto can win with pure skill against Margo, but chances are that Pac-Man will be stopped in a Cotto fight, just as Cotto was stopped against Margo!!

obviously floyd's record at 130 is better than pac's.

[Wrighty]

lol Pacquiao ain't even gonna make it past Hatton. Everyone is blowing Pacquiao up far too much. We don't even know if he can take a punch at a higher weight cos last time he was hit clean by Marquez he was hurt bad and that was at superfeather. I hope Pacquiao beats Ricky cos i don't really like Hatton but i think everyone is making Manny out to be more than what he is. Yes everyone knows Manny was great in his last 2 fights but i think some of the headlines for his last 2 fights should have been about how bad his opposition performed mainly DLH cos Diaz is a joke anyway.
Hatton 8th rd KO.

[Del Coqui]

After Manny Pacquiao stopped Oscar De La Hoya on December 6 in Las Vegas, many began to ponder how Pacquiao would do against some of the top welterweights in the division. One name the continues to come up is former two division champion Miguel Cotto. Cotto is considered a small welterweight and moved up from 140-pounds, where Pacquiao will now campaign. The two fighters are similiar in height and share the same reach at 67-inches. Both fighters are also under contract with the same promotional company, Top Rank. [details]

I hope Cotto doesn't go there.... No respect if he does...

[jdubb863]

Wow all this Pacquiao fighting welterweights is gettin crazy...Not only that what has Cotto done to deserve a Mega Fight?... Oh yeah he beat alfonso Gomez and Quit agianst Margarito!!... I would rather see Pacquiao-Berto. It could be titled "Speed Kills"