Will it be Kessler vs. Winky Wright in March?

[βetamax]

i'm new to this fun little debate but tunney are you claiming roy jones is not shot? it's universally recognized that he is very shot. i mean look at him he just stands there and takes punches.also johnson and tarver are not shot as you can see by their performances in the ring. old yes but not shot. tarver just dominated woods for the ibf title. roy jones hasn't been fighting on the world title level for 5 years.

Well...uh...that only proves that the general public is racist and out to discredit Calzaghe! They're probably all gay and have a strong *******ual desire for black men, too.

[The Hammer]

Well...uh...that only proves that the general public is racist and out to discredit Calzaghe! They're probably all gay and have a strong *******ual desire for black men, too.

No, most people are not racist. You've accused me of that repeatedly, since some of my favorites happen to be white. Anyone who reads through you posts will see you have quite a fascination with black men - is it an indication of *******ual attraction? I'm not sure.

But one thing is certain, most of what YOU ever do here is hate on European fighters and their fans, although you claim to be white. It must be horrible being you - despising the person you see when you look in the mirror, and wishing you were something you can never be.

Maybe you can do what Michael Jackson did to himself, in reverse?

[Dynamite Kid]

No, most people are not racist. You've accused me of that repeatedly, since some of my favorites happen to be white. Anyone who reads through you posts will see you have quite a fascination with black men - is it an indication of *******ual attraction? I'm not sure.

But one thing is certain, most of what YOU ever do here is hate on European fighters and their fans, although you claim to be white. It must be horrible being you - despising the person you see when you look in the mirror, and wishing you were something you can never be.

Maybe you can do what Michael Jackson did to himself, in reverse?

Tunney your defintion of not being a fan of any European fighter means you hate Europeans

No it means what it says you are not a fan but that does not make you racist and it does not mean you have a grudge against European fighters.

[βetamax]

No, most people are not racist. You've accused me of that repeatedly, since some of my favorites happen to be white. Anyone who reads through you posts will see you have quite a fascination with black men - is it an indication of *******ual attraction? I'm not sure.

But one thing is certain, most of what YOU ever do here is hate on European fighters and their fans, although you claim to be white. It must be horrible being you - despising the person you see when you look in the mirror, and wishing you were something you can never be.

Maybe you can do what Michael Jackson did to himself, in reverse?

Whoa...wait....what???

I've NEVER given my background on here. I know how much you'd love to pigeonhole me but I'm not telling, sorry.

It's gotten to the point that your just making up **** about me because you have nothing. How you've come to the conclusion that I hate European fighters and therefore I hate white fighters is beyond me.

I've never accused anyone of being racist simply because some of their favorite fighters are white. I'm accusing you of being racist based on the piles of evidence to suggest you are including posting on a white supremacist forum. It's not like half of the forum doesn't already agree.

By the way, some of your favorites happen to be white...like ALL of them? Oh right, you have a couple token black fighters you claim to be a fan of just so you don't appear racist. You know, it would be one thing if there was a logical reason why most of your favorite fighters were white such as if white fighters made up a majority of the big names in boxing or you were from a country that produced mainly white boxers, but that's not the case. Your essentially a cheerleader for anyone who happens to be white regardless of how mediocre they may be or where they are from. It's quite telling that with all the great black talent that has come from the US in the last 20 years your a fan of none.

[The Hammer]

mt102879, again you use the "Ad Hominum" argument.

By the way, you did say you are white. I find it rather strange that I've never seen a single positive comment about a white boxer from you, considering most of the titles in the bigger weight divisions are currently held by white boxers. For that matter, you never have anything good to say about Asian or Hispanic boxers, who have most of the titles in the lighter weight divisions. All the Ring Champions are either Hispanic or white. Yet you are 100% focused on black men.

What does that tell us about you?

[Kesslerfan#1]

U C u n t s get a room would ya!!!
This is about Kessler vs Winky... I hope it doesint happen to be honest...**** winky has been off so long its almost like he doesint deserve Kessler!!!
Boxing is a frustrating sport to follow in the highest league but it sure is exciting...slow as it may be to dish up!!!

[The Hammer]

U C u n t s get a room would ya!!!
This is about Kessler vs Winky...

I agree.

Honestly, I come here to discuss boxing, but this nut mt102879 has some kind of agenda and always starts harassing me.

[βetamax]

mt102879, again you use the "Ad Hominum" argument.

By the way, you did say you are white. I find it rather strange that I've never seen a single positive comment about a white boxer from you, considering most of the titles in the bigger weight divisions are currently held by white boxers. For that matter, you never have anything good to say about Asian or Hispanic boxers, who have most of the titles in the lighter weight divisions. All the Ring Champions are either Hispanic or white. Yet you are 100% focused on black men.

What does that tell us about you?

Uh, no. I've never said I'm white. If you can show me where I've said that I will send over all my points and never post on this forum again.

I'm glad you learned a new word today, BTW. Maybe now you can take the time to read about it.

There's only a handful of meaningful white names out there. Let's see....there's Calzaghe, Klitschko bros., Kessler, Pavlik, a few others? Not exactly a large pool to choose from and I'm not really a fan of them based on what they do in the ring. I like the Klitschko bros. but I don't really follow the heavyweight division too closely because I prefer the athleticism generally displayed by those in the lighter weight classes.

What Asian fighters? Pacquiao....and? He's actually one of my top 5 fighters.

Latino fighters? Cotto, JMM, Juanma, Barrera (one of my all time favs), and more.

Since when do the Ring ****zine titles have any reflection on who's popular or even the best? What's even more laughable is that currently half of those titles are vacated.

Anything else you want to accuse me of?

[βetamax]

I agree.

Honestly, I come here to discuss boxing, but this nut mt102879 has some kind of agenda and always starts harassing me.

LOL

Oh, poor Tunney. You want to have your cake and eat it too. You want to come here and spew your racist agenda and not be criticized for it. Not going to happen, sorry.

[The Hammer]

Uh, no. I've never said I'm white. If you can show me where I've said that I will send over all my points and never post on this forum again.

I'm glad you learned a new word today, BTW. Maybe now you can take the time to read about it.

There's only a handful of meaningful white names out there. Let's see....there's Calzaghe, Klitschko bros., Kessler, Pavlik, a few others? Not exactly a large pool to choose from and I'm not really a fan of them based on what they do in the ring. I like the Klitschko bros. but I don't really follow the heavyweight division too closely because I prefer the athleticism generally displayed by those in the lighter weight classes.

What Asian fighters? Pacquiao....and? He's actually one of my top 5 fighters.

Latino fighters? Cotto, JMM, Juanma, Barrera (one of my all time favs), and more.

Since when do the Ring ****zine titles have any reflection on who's popular or even the best? What's even more laughable is that currently half of those titles are vacated.

So you are saying the only good Asian fighter is Pacquiao? One of the best young fighters in the world is Nonito Donaire. It proves you are not a real boxing fan, if you've never heard of him! Then there's Nietes, Sakata, Hasagawa, Penalosa, Korobi, etc. who all have world titles. If you "prefer the athleticism generally displayed by those in the lighter weight classes" why haven't you heard of these boxers?

And if you think Pacman is the only good Asian boxer, then you couldn't have watched the Olympics this year!

Racism is defined as the belief that one race is superior to others. mt102879, you are clearly a racist, because you consider one race to have "superior athleticism" as Max Kellerman puts it. I believe boxing ability has to do with training, desire to succeed, dedication, heart, learned skills, etc. and that race has nothing to do with it.