Prime Hamed versus Today's PacMan

[Sir_Jose]

Nobody is saying Pac has an iron chin. I'm expressing my opinion. Also, the Prince was down twice, I remember the 2nd and 4th round KDs perfectly. I didn't see the first round because I got to the bar late but I remember the second and third ones and he was on the canvas.

There would be some madd clashing of heads in this fight, that's for sure.

No you dont remember them clearly. I have the fight. maybe the fact that you watched it at a bar has some effect on that. Hamed was on his back once and poped right back up in the first. The second and third were because his gloved touched the canvas.

[chilly9876]

munn how can you say what you did about naz not being able to fight when he gets hit??did you even watch the kelley fight???
and those that say naz has a suspect chin...did you watch the barerra fight?he got caught with brilliant punches from barerra but still stayed standing.
And since when did pac throw amazing punches from different angles as one of you said?all he has is a good one-two as we saw in the marquez fight.

Naz loves fighters who come forward,thats why going into the barerra fight he was the favourite,what put him off waas that barerra didnt come forward.
Pac is tailor-made for naz,an open fighter that steams forward. Naz would land easily and take the pac-man out no doubt within a few rounds,maybe gettin knocked down once or twice himself in the process.

[Moon]

Yeah, saw Naz-Kelley and cannot compare Kelley's "pressure" to that which Pac would bring. And, when I say "hit", I mean "hit" and then "hit" again, by a ****er who keeps coming.

It's not impressive for Naz, when the best we can say about his Barrera performnace is the at he "got caught with brilliant punches from Barerra but still stayed standing". He could have used a few briliant punches himself that night. He had it in him, but he just lost his mental edge.

My point, once again, is this: Naz gets caught by a true pressure fighter (not kelley) who won't backdown, and his "will" is gone. He might not go down, but, just as important, something gives in his head!Wahtever happens in his mind keeps him from really opening-up and countering with combinations. Barrera reduced him to a one-punch man because he lost what mental toughness.

I won't discount Naz's skills, speed, one-punch counters and Ring Entrances. Their all pretty good. But the man left the game in a dramatic loss and has not returned, which is too bad.

In the end, I still figure that today's Pac could reduce Naz in the same way Barrera did. Pac would fight different from MAB, but the result would be the same and possibly a KO. I don't like to see Pac lean the way he does, but I still see his offence being faster than Naz's counters.

[ELPacman]

Barrera mainly knocks you out after slowly chewing you apart. It's either you can take his power or you can't. If you can as Hamed did, he would be tagged and hit in bad ways though not hurt too much or to get KOed. Manny obviously hits harder than Barrera so just take Hamed's reactions to Barrera's power and add some extra force into them and get Hamed's new reaction. Most likely he'll keep going down though who knows, would he have the heart as JMM to keep getting back up? Pacman is for real also, he'll break ur nose and keep going at it without backing down. I don't think Hamed could handle the firepower.

[Sir_Jose]

Yeah, saw Naz-Kelley and cannot compare Kelley's "pressure" to that which Pac would bring. And, when I say "hit", I mean "hit" and then "hit" again, by a ****er who keeps coming.

It's not impressive for Naz, when the best we can say about his Barrera performnace is the at he "got caught with brilliant punches from Barerra but still stayed standing". He could have used a few briliant punches himself that night. He had it in him, but he just lost his mental edge.

My point, once again, is this: Naz gets caught by a true pressure fighter (not kelley) who won't backdown, and his "will" is gone. He might not go down, but, just as important, something gives in his head!Wahtever happens in his mind keeps him from really opening-up and countering with combinations. Barrera reduced him to a one-punch man because he lost what mental toughness.

I won't discount Naz's skills, speed, one-punch counters and Ring Entrances. Their all pretty good. But the man left the game in a dramatic loss and has not returned, which is too bad.

In the end, I still figure that today's Pac could reduce Naz in the same way Barrera did. Pac would fight different from MAB, but the result would be the same and possibly a KO. I don't like to see Pac lean the way he does, but I still see his offence being faster than Naz's counters.

pay attention

Naz eats pessure fights up. Pressuring him plays right into his hands

[Moon]

pay attention

Naz eats pessure fights up. Pressuring him plays right into his hands

Jose, would you consider MAB as "pressuring" Naz, or was he letting Naz come to him? Or did they satnd and go toe-to-toe. My recollection is the Naz did handle MAB's pressure too well. You might argue that MAB did most of his damage when countering, but I saw MAB moving forward alot. Seems that should have "played right into his hands".

[Sir_Jose]

Jose, would you consider MAB as "pressuring" Naz, or was he letting Naz come to him? Or did they satnd and go toe-to-toe. My recollection is the Naz did handle MAB's pressure too well. You might argue that MAB did most of his damage when countering, but I saw MAB moving forward alot. Seems that should have "played right into his hands".

are you kidding me?

MAB stayed back and fought an extreamly disacpline fight. Watch MAB's fights with McKinney and Morales then go watch his fight with Hamed its a 180.

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I Had Posted This Match Up In The Thread Where It Belongs,like 2 Months Ago.

[m00ks]

wrong Hameds chin is not suspect his balance is bad thats why he gets kn****ed down. You have never seen Hamed stubling around the ring on dream street.

Kelley only knocked Hamed down once the other two where because his glove touched the canvas.

Hmaed could take yopu out with either hand from any angle and from any punch

and please lets not act like Pac has an iron chin here. The guy has been KO'ed twice and had to hold on for dear life just to survive against Huessien.

I wouldn't say Pac has the best chin but don't tell me it's weak. The 2 KO losses we're body shots. Hussein has power and Pac got caught which will be demonstrated against the beating of Larios on the MAB/EM undercard. He held for dear life in round 4 after the knockdown but still controlled the fight from there on out. Pac took MAB and JMM's best shots. 2 fighters with more than respectable KO percentages.

[m00ks]

are you kidding me?

MAB stayed back and fought an extreamly disacpline fight. Watch MAB's fights with McKinney and Morales then go watch his fight with Hamed its a 180.

Disciplined except for the wrestling incident