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    [QUOTE=mrpain81;4234629][B]If Hatton keeps winning and if Delahoya beats Pacman and Margarito/Cotto/Williams for a title, I have no problem if Hatton wanting to try once again down the line for a welterweight title in a huge mega fight against Delahoya.


    well Hatton might be up next for DLH actually .. as if Ricky gets Paulie outta the way next month... Hatton will most likely be chasing the DLH-Pac winner .. and rightfully so.

    and again do you really expect DLH to go for Margarito/Williams/Cotto? no way, DLH's about big time events

    and IMO Hatton-DLH comes before DLH-Margarito,DLH-PWil or DLH-Cotto

    Golden Boy executives have continuously been talking about DLH-Hatton ... so expect Hatton to call out DLH if he wins November 22nd.

    "Boxing didn't need to be saved, boxing needs the best fighters consistently fighting each other. After Maywather vs Delahoya the promoters and fighters saw how great that fight sold and the biggest and best fights have been getting signed."

    I know it doesn't need ''saving'' that was just the story the media used to run with the fight. I have noticed that after DLH/Mayweather it's really seemed like the bigger and better fights have been getting made .. as 2007 finished with a pretty solid fight line up IMO and even 2008 has had it's big fights (Marquez/Pacquiao 2 and Cotto-Margarito to name 2)

    but here's where we differ, bigger doesn't automatically =better in my book as no kidding DLH-Hatton and DLH-Pac are big fights, but does that make them better? to me it just looks like taking the 2 biggest names you can find and throwing them together. sure it's big as you say, but at what point are you going to say

    **okay this has no redeming value as a fight and the Promoter's are simply trying to cash out/see how ******/gullible we are as fans. I mean as a fan do we have to be ******/gullible for every BIG EVENT/FIGHT that comes out? where's the threshold here?

    "The fight was not great but it still made Mayweather a superstar and he ended up selling big numbers in his very next fight, even Hatton who lost is bigger then ever in the UK. Win or lose this fight Pac will only become a bigger name and star, that's why I have no problem with it."

    well yeah and after Hatton Mayweather tried to go after Oscar again .. and well retired. but fighting DLH the first time certainly upped Floyd's profile a great deal and should do the same for Pacquiao. We'll have to see about the outcome as again it depends .. can Pac win ....lose a close decision .. or just get crushed.
    Yes Pac's recognition will get bigger, but we cannot accurately measure just how big until after December the 6th. as the worst case scenerio would be Pac losing via one sided kayo. I don't think I have to explain how the perception of the Pound For Pound #1 going up 2 weight classes for a huge payday only to get his ass kicked by a past prime 36 year old

    again that's only 1 potential way the fight could turn out, but im saying we'll have to come back post Dream Fight to see just how upped the stock was of Pacquiao overall.

    "As for Delahoya, he gets hate if he does or if he don't. People ***** about him no matter what, It's like the guy you love to hate. He has consistently fought the best fighters yet he still gets called a coward and a *****."

    well I won't call him a coward or a *****, but he's in the spotlight way too much for my taste, and I think you have to include that into the equasion of people disliking DLH.

    he's in the boxing spotlight too much, and I think that's becoming more fact then opinion especially the way it looks now with DLH planning to fight beyond 2008.

    and on top of it, how do you think DLH's quotes about "Manny picking on me" or "Im fighting for the good of boxing and for the fans" make him look.

    Love or hate DLH, both those quotes make him look like a money grubbing ****** who's trying to disguise the fact that he took an easier challenge .. even if that fighter is the Best Pound For Pound Fighter in the World. Saying a natural 126 or so pounder is picking on you, is just plain rediculous.

    I don't have to hate DLH. the things he says in interviews regarding the fights .. and this one, speak for themselves pretty well.
    Last edited by MJ406; 10-25-2008, 12:30 AM.

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      Originally posted by MJ406 View Post
      Complaining? who said i was complaining?

      all I said was DLH-Pac will cost $54.95 via PPV.

      one statement, the end. no complaints from me

      it's PPV and will cost $54.95, the end.

      and yes Oscar's had a great career, but at 36 IMO he needs to stop milking the fans for all there worth

      at this point in time, as a sports and boxing fan I do not care for DLH. I don't love or hate him

      i am in-different on the topic and don't care to see him fight.

      when did Cotto call Gomez great?

      and second of all it was a tune up fight ffs. who cares .. big deal .. Cotto fought a cup cake opponent Alfonzo Gomez to set up a big PPV fight vs Antonio Margarito

      is Miguel Cotto the only elite level fighter in the history of the sport to take a tune up fight?
      unless the answer to the above is yes .... why is Cotto fighting Gomez a big deal?

      and at least Gomez is a natural 154 .. big Welterweight

      where Pacquiao has to move up 2 weight classes for this upcoming fight.

      but until then, he just needs to stay quiet and contrate on avenging his loss against margarito.. a guy who isnt even the best fighter in their division.
      well Bob Arum would agree with you, but Cotto's just using his right to freely speak.

      Julio Chavez and Vernon Forrest have also openly poked fun at this fight .. should they keep quiet as well?

      and at least Cotto had the balls to face Margarito.[/QUOTE]

      julio chavez is a legend.. vernon forrest is a good fighter who has a had a pretty good career and he's a vet.. they can say what the **** they wanna say..

      i could care less if gomez was 180 he is garbage.. you cant compare his skill set to pacquiao.. gomez is basically a D class fighter.

      in oneof miguelito cotto's interviews he called gomez a great fighter.. i guess he was trying to pump up gomez and make it seem like a legit fight..

      like i said he needs to concentrate on beating margarito in their rematch.. a guy who isnt even the best in their own division

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        Finally someone else tells it like it is.

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          "i could care less if gomez was 180 he is garbage.. you cant compare his skill set to pacquiao.. gomez is basically a D class fighter."

          when did I ever say Gomez was more qualified because he's more skilled?

          What I did say is Gomez is at least a Welterweight, where Pacquioa last fought at Lightweight.

          well you can be a great fighter ... but a ****ty boxer, right?
          and so what if Cotto hyped up his fight a lil .. that's been done before as well.

          "like i said he needs to concentrate on beating margarito in their rematch.. a guy who isnt even the best in their own division[/QUOTE]

          and big deal, it's not like Margarito is a journeyman/scrub fighter. he's probably the 1st or 2nd in the division.

          why are you making it seem like Cotto lost to a prospect or something?

          Cotto lost to the fighter who "isn't even the best in the division" ... so what, Margarito's obviously a top level fighter.

          and I guess Paul Williams who would be #1 (is that where you rank him?) is 1-1 with Quintana .. who's not even top 5 in the division.

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            MJ406

            just press the "reply" button to quote a post you want to reply too, it's a bit confusing to read your replys sometimes.

            To answer you, I do think Delahoya will fight Margarito next year.

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              I just dont gtet or ever have gotten the oscar hype. Every MAJOR fight he has had, he has lost, wether some may think he won some, obviously he did not impress enough to win. B=hops, ko, Mosley 2 L's. Trini L, Floyd L. He beats a roid burned vargas, an easy day in mayorga, old chavez, wins against sweet pea but we know he did not. HE IS ACTUALLY KNOWN TO LOOSE HIS MEGA FIGHTS MORE THAN WINNING THE BIG ONES. And he will loose to the pac man.

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                Originally posted by MJ406 View Post
                "i could care less if gomez was 180 he is garbage.. you cant compare his skill set to pacquiao.. gomez is basically a D class fighter."

                when did I ever say Gomez was more qualified because he's more skilled?

                What I did say is Gomez is at least a Welterweight, where Pacquioa last fought at Lightweight.

                well you can be a great fighter ... but a ****ty boxer, right?
                and so what if Cotto hyped up his fight a lil .. that's been done before as well.

                "like i said he needs to concentrate on beating margarito in their rematch.. a guy who isnt even the best in their own division
                and big deal, it's not like Margarito is a journeyman/scrub fighter. he's probably the 1st or 2nd in the division.

                why are you making it seem like Cotto lost to a prospect or something?

                Cotto lost to the fighter who "isn't even the best in the division" ... so what, Margarito's obviously a top level fighter.

                and I guess Paul Williams who would be #1 (is that where you rank him?) is 1-1 with Quintana .. who's not even top 5 in the division.[/QUOTE]

                to answer your question yes i have williams as the number 1 welter.. u can make an argument for margarito they are 1 and 2 i would think in anyone's book right now.

                im not making it seem like cotto lost to a scrub in regards to gomez..
                its just funny how he is tryon to critisize someone for their opponent selection when he hasnt always gone up against stellar opposition himself.. **** he doesnt even pick his own opponents bob arum and the cotto management handles who he fights.. i just think he should mind his own business and worry about his career right now and not say anything about anyone elses.. maybe when he redeems himself against margarito or wins belts in 5 or 6 different weight classes he can earn the prestige and comment on other people's careers..

                i aint trying to bash the dude i just dont see how he's gonna say something about oscar

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                  respect Cotto for calling it like it is

                  respect him even more for actually being about it

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                    Cotto have the right to speak out, but wait for his turn if ever ODLH want to fight him, since ODLH express himself that he is willing to fight Cotto, since he lost to Margarito that's is now a difference story.

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                      Originally posted by Squabbles94806 View Post
                      I got one word for you...MONEY!!!

                      I agree and disagree.

                      I agree that De La Hoya should be picking on someone his own size. I agree that Pacquiao should stay within his own weight class realm.

                      I disagree with this fight hurting boxing. If anything more people will watch this fight because everyone knows who Pacquiao and De La Hoya are. i think it'll generate more money and politics and all that stuff.

                      I agree that De La Hoya should be fighting elite fighters in his weight class. BUT right now, De La Hoya is tryin to retire so i don't think that he wants to receive any more damage than he has to.

                      I disagree that Pacquiao isn't going to be a threat to DLH. Pacquiao's gonna give him a fight.

                      I think Tyson and Don King hurt boxing. I think the UFC hurt boxing.
                      You my friend are a joke

                      The most exciting fighter of all time
                      Don Kind produced great fights and under cards

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