kelly pavlik vs prime james toney

[deanrw]

A prime Toney, that is in shape and motivated, beats pretty much everyone.

Toney was a special fighter. If he would have been more disciplined, he could have been an all time great.

[Steak]

A prime Toney, that is in shape and motivated, beats pretty much everyone.

Toney was a special fighter. If he would have been more disciplined, he could have been an all time great.

I dont see how Toney isnt an ATG. I know he has some embarressing losses due to his horrible conditioning, but a lot of old timers had some embarressing losses too, even in their good years, and theyre still ATGs. I concentrate more on who they able to beat, and how.

not saying hes a guarenteed ATG, but hes in the discussion.

[El Dominicano]

At either weight, Toney would KO Pavlik, if he was at his best.

What he said. Toney defense is too good for someone as slow as Pavlik.

[dfwtx]

Easily Toney, I like Kelly but Toney was always unbelievable against these robotic 1-2 punchers

[Sithis]

prime toney wins by TKO

[TheGreatA]

I dont see how Toney isnt an ATG. I know he has some embarressing losses due to his horrible conditioning, but a lot of old timers had some embarressing losses too, even in their good years, and theyre still ATGs. I concentrate more on who they able to beat, and how.

not saying hes a guarenteed ATG, but hes in the discussion.

I would say so.

Fritzie Zivic had 65 losses but he is an ATG in my opinion...

[GattiFan]

Toney.

Heavyweights havent stopped Toney.

Prime Toney laughs all the way through kicking the feces out of Pavs and stops him late.

Tony IS an ATG.

[Sox8055]

Tony would take this by a wide UD, too slick and defensive for KellyP

[hookoutofhell]

prime toney takes a wide UD - pavlik imo loses to most fighters with a clever boxing brain and good ring smarts hes just too predictable.

imo kelly is the best of a bad bunch, the middleweight scene at the minute is virtually non existent, in fact it could be considered the worst division in boxing right now.
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[AztecWanker]

toney stops pavlik. if taylor can badly hurt pavlik, toney at 168 sure as hell can KO him.