Arum please make Margarito vs Williams

[CottoOverrated1]

are you one of the guys fooled by that offer? how much do you think margarito makes out of that 4 mill once everyone has got their cut?? Not enough! williams always prices himself way too high. just like he did with pavlik. He's going to be the next winky wright if he keeps it up. Why is williams shying away from a clottey and 3rd quintana fight?

you are such a williams hater. take off your margarito colored glasses and then maybe you will understand that arum is not putting any of his fighters in with williams. I dont see clottey calling out williams either. you swear that clottey is taking a williams fight. he will not. clottey is just going to sit on that title until arum is ready to let cotto or marg fight clottey for it. a 3rd quintana fight huh? there was a 1st round KO we dont need to see a thrid fight until quintana can prove himself again or never. nobody is asking for a 3rd quintana fight except marg fans. quintana would get destroyed again. williams overlooked quintana big time in that first fight. he didnt even spare with any lefties in preparation for that fight. seriously, **** you. you lucky i dont kick your ass.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Look Margarito has SOME skill. But fanboys seriously overrate it. He's a tank. A pressure fighter punching bag.

Weak footwork, no jab,no setups on any shots outside or insides except with WORKRATE and PRESSURE. he's not even a high skill inside fighter (Castillo, Toney etc).These are not high skill attributes but genetic attributes. He cuts off the ring not with footwork but by using his face as a punching bag and applying forward pressure with his iron chin. Again, not a skill attribute. The only skill attribute I can see a recent uppercuts on the inside, and he protects his body well. There's more but whatever.

If he keeps taking beatings like the Cotto fight he will end up like Castillo and/or Mayorga.

I don't overrate him, majority of the times I'm defending him. I know he's beatable, especially by Floyd.

Judging from your opinion on his skills, it seems to me you've only watched his fight vs Cotto. How many Marg fights have you seen and against who?

I highly doubt he would end up like Castillo or Mayorga, he has a tougher mentality than both of them combined. That's not overrating, just opinion bro.

You have yet to answer my question on who are your favorite boxers btw.

[bsrizpac]

I don't overrate him, majority of the times I'm defending him. I know he's beatable, especially by Floyd.

Judging from your opinion on his skills, it seems to me you've only watched his fight vs Cotto. How many Marg fights have you seen and against who?

I highly doubt he would end up like Castillo or Mayorga, he has a tougher mentality than both of them combined. That's not overrating, just opinion bro.

You have yet to answer my question on who are your favorite boxers btw.

Lmao. I've been watching boxing WAY before you if you started anytime after the beginning of the 90's. I've seen a bunch of his fights, nice try. Name one and ill tell you if i've seen it. Nice of you not to refute any of my skills points with anything of substance.'

How about you tell me what NON Mexican boxers you like? Also- maybe the reason you don't know which ones I like is that I'm not a homer fanboy of any one fighter.

I'll name one current fighter I'm a fan of just to start you off: Wlad Klitchsko.

[ANDROID_DOES]

you are such a williams hater. take off your margarito colored glasses and then maybe you will understand that arum is not putting any of his fighters in with williams. I dont see clottey calling out williams either. you swear that clottey is taking a williams fight. he will not. clottey is just going to sit on that title until arum is ready to let cotto or marg fight clottey for it. a 3rd quintana fight huh? there was a 1st round KO we dont need to see a thrid fight until quintana can prove himself again or never. nobody is asking for a 3rd quintana fight except marg fans. quintana would get destroyed again. williams overlooked quintana big time in that first fight. he didnt even spare with any lefties in preparation for that fight. seriously, **** you. you lucky i dont kick your ass.

are you ****** you dumb ****??? you obviously don't know **** about what you're talking about. Please read you troll:

By Scoop Malinowski

Paul ‘The Punisher’ Williams has gained a reputation as a man not many welterweight boxers want to fight. But there is one man out there who keenly would like to step in the ring and do battle with the WBO titleholder - it’s Joshua Clottey, the newly crowned IBF king.

And it’s seems a bit strange that Williams is not jumping at the chance to increase his status and bargaining power by meeting Clottey on a date HBO has supposedly set aside for Williams and his advisor Al Haymon in November.

“Every time I bring up (a Williams fight) to Arum he says, Oh he’ll never fight us,” Clottey’s manager Vinny Scolpino said on Thursday. “And that would be decent money. You’ve got Al Haymon with HBO, you’d think there’d be decent money there.”

Clottey was willing to step in and fight Williams as his first title defense opponent earlier this year but did not get the chance. Team Williams opted to select Carlos Quintana as their opponent. “We’ll fight Paul Williams but he never steps up to the plate,” says Scolpino. “We’d love to fight but he never mentions our name. That’d be a good unification bout. I don’t think they have an opponent for the November 29 HBO date.”

HBO is supposedly holding the November 29 date open for Williams and a TBD. And what better choice of a TBD is there for Williams than a unification tiff with the mighty Ghanaian Joshua Clottey? Margarito is done for the year and is reported to be decided on an early ‘09 tune-up before a June rematch with Cotto. WBC champ Andre Berto is busy with Steve Forbes next month. Oscar De La Hoya will battle Manny Pacquiao in December.

Paul Williams and Clottey would seem like a perfect match-up for HBO and boxing fans for November 29. “If he’s open, we’re open, let’s make it,” says Scolpino. “But like I said, I’ve never seen him (Williams) talk once about Joshua Clottey in any of the articles on the internet.”

The fact of the matter is this: Nobody seems to want to fight Joshua Clottey, not even Paul Williams. “Yeah, it seems that way, don’t it,” says Scolpino. “We always get close. We need a big fight for the kid.”

Where is the new IBF champion right now? “He’s in Ghana now. Waiting for something to pop. Then he’ll come home (to the Bronx).”

Team Clottey is grateful for how Bob Arum has managed to turn Joshua’s career around with the big chance and huge victory over Zab Judah. “Bob is trying to make some things happen. Top Rank did what they said they would, they got us the Judah fight. They keep trying.”

But for some odd reason, Paul Williams, Al Haymon and the rest of Team Williams seem to want nothing to do with a unification bout against Joshua “The Hitter” Clottey.

[CottoOverrated1]

yeah he does he seems like a pretty cool dude.

then stop ****ting on the guy every chance you get. yall ******* still hurt from that williams lost. yall voered it up with a cotto win, but your ******* are still hurt.

[ANDROID_DOES]

then stop ****ting on the guy every chance you get. yall ******* still hurt from that williams lost. yall voered it up with a cotto win, but your ******* are still hurt.

does it make you feel good to call people ******* through your keyboard? You obviously haven't seen much of my posts. Get the **** out of here. Funny you avoid the article i posted that slapped you in the face.

[bsrizpac]

are you ****** you dumb ****??? you obviously don't know **** about what you're talking about. Please read you troll:

By Scoop Malinowski

Paul ‘The Punisher’ Williams has gained a reputation as a man not many welterweight boxers want to fight. But there is one man out there who keenly would like to step in the ring and do battle with the WBO titleholder - it’s Joshua Clottey, the newly crowned IBF king.

And it’s seems a bit strange that Williams is not jumping at the chance to increase his status and bargaining power by meeting Clottey on a date HBO has supposedly set aside for Williams and his advisor Al Haymon in November.

“Every time I bring up (a Williams fight) to Arum he says, Oh he’ll never fight us,” Clottey’s manager Vinny Scolpino said on Thursday. “And that would be decent money. You’ve got Al Haymon with HBO, you’d think there’d be decent money there.”

Clottey was willing to step in and fight Williams as his first title defense opponent earlier this year but did not get the chance. Team Williams opted to select Carlos Quintana as their opponent. “We’ll fight Paul Williams but he never steps up to the plate,” says Scolpino. “We’d love to fight but he never mentions our name. That’d be a good unification bout. I don’t think they have an opponent for the November 29 HBO date.”

HBO is supposedly holding the November 29 date open for Williams and a TBD. And what better choice of a TBD is there for Williams than a unification tiff with the mighty Ghanaian Joshua Clottey? Margarito is done for the year and is reported to be decided on an early ‘09 tune-up before a June rematch with Cotto. WBC champ Andre Berto is busy with Steve Forbes next month. Oscar De La Hoya will battle Manny Pacquiao in December.

Paul Williams and Clottey would seem like a perfect match-up for HBO and boxing fans for November 29. “If he’s open, we’re open, let’s make it,” says Scolpino. “But like I said, I’ve never seen him (Williams) talk once about Joshua Clottey in any of the articles on the internet.”

The fact of the matter is this: Nobody seems to want to fight Joshua Clottey, not even Paul Williams. “Yeah, it seems that way, don’t it,” says Scolpino. “We always get close. We need a big fight for the kid.”

Where is the new IBF champion right now? “He’s in Ghana now. Waiting for something to pop. Then he’ll come home (to the Bronx).”

Team Clottey is grateful for how Bob Arum has managed to turn Joshua’s career around with the big chance and huge victory over Zab Judah. “Bob is trying to make some things happen. Top Rank did what they said they would, they got us the Judah fight. They keep trying.”

But for some odd reason, Paul Williams, Al Haymon and the rest of Team Williams seem to want nothing to do with a unification bout against Joshua “The Hitter” Clottey.

come on man, you know that Bob Arum is one of the biggest lying *******s in the game.

[ANDROID_DOES]

come on man, you know that Bob Arum is one of the biggest lying *******s in the game.

arum isn't quoted in that article. It's clottey and his camp.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Lmao. I've been watching boxing WAY before you if you started anytime after the beginning of the 90's. I've seen a bunch of his fights, nice try. Name one and ill tell you if i've seen it. Nice of you not to refute any of my skills points with anything of substance.'

How about you tell me what NON Mexican boxers you like? Also- maybe the reason you don't know which ones I like is that I'm not a homer fanboy of any one fighter.

I'll name one current fighter I'm a fan of just to start you off: Wlad Klitchsko.

I'm 29 and started watching boxing since a little kid, I love the sport.

Ok I'll answer your nonmexican boxer question.
Floyd Mayweather
Shane Mosley
Paul Williams
BHOP
Miguel Cotto
Felix Trinidad
Ivan Calderon
Meldrick Taylor
Winky
Kostya Tszyu
That is just a fraction, not in order.....I can go all day on other boxers I like.

I know you have a favorite boxer, everyone has one.

[ferocity]

The hate don't stop with the Margarito haters.

Lets make that Williams fight now. And let Wililams go on his way.