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Why does TheRing have Hopkins as #4 p4p but Calderon not in the top 10?

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    #11
    Originally posted by Tunney View Post
    The Ring ratings are supposed to have the CURRENT top 10, or else Pep and Robinson would be there.

    Hopkins has lost THREE of his past FIVE fights. For that reason for sure he doesn't belong there.
    His wins over Wright and Tarver( which were AFTER his losses to Taylor) put him high up there. Thats like taking Pacquaio off the list because he lost to Eric Morales a few years ago. Wright and Tarver were both on the pound for pound list and the higher the fighters are ranked pound for pound, the higher Hopkins scoots up the list because of the win. Wright was pound for pound number two at the time and Tarver was top 8 if i am remembering right. Calzaghe was ranked high so Hopkins wasn't scooted down much.

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      #12
      i think its obvious.
      people have been saying he's probably the best pure boxer in the game, and some how he isn't there.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Tunney View Post
        It's seems unfair to me the the Ring ****zine has old Bernard "One Punch & Hold" Hopkins as #4 on their p4p list, but a slick, quick fighter like Ivan Calderon has been left off.

        Hopkins has no world titles, while Calderon is the champion at Light Flyweight.

        Hopkins has lost THREE of his past FIVE. Calderon is undefeated in his career, with many successful world title defenses at strawweight and light flyweight!

        Is this fair?

        What is it with you and Hopkins? It seems like a lot of your posts are directed towards him.

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          #14
          calderon will have his recognizition fully in 09 he will retire undefeated and he will do alot and surpass ricardo lopez.

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            #15
            Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View Post
            His wins over Wright and Tarver( which were AFTER his losses to Taylor) put him high up there. Thats like taking Pacquaio off the list because he lost to Eric Morales a few years ago. Wright and Tarver were both on the pound for pound list and the higher the fighters are ranked pound for pound, the higher Hopkins scoots up the list because of the win. Wright was pound for pound number two at the time and Tarver was top 8 if i am remembering right. Calzaghe was ranked high so Hopkins wasn't scooted down much.
            What fighters in the current p4p list has Hopkins defeated? I see one there he lost to.

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              #16
              because he doesnt struggle with oridnary fighters like calderon....

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                #17
                Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
                What is it with you and Hopkins? It seems like a lot of your posts are directed towards him.
                I would like The Ring ****zine to be fair to everyone in their p4p ratings. Hopkins is overrated.

                If Pavlik KOs him, it will be considered meaningless because he's old. But since he's way past prime, why is he rated so high in the p4p ratings?

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                  #18
                  hater

                  Originally posted by -hyperion- View Post
                  because He Doesnt Struggle With Oridnary Fighters Like Calderon....
                  ooooooooooooleeeeeeeeeeeeee!!

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                    #19
                    Hopkins has always struggled with ordinary fighters his own size, that's why he picked on the little guys like Oscar.

                    Here he is, struggling,watch this video:

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                      #20
                      maybe because it's a subjective ranking system

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