Calzaghe vs. Hagler @ 168

[krispy kreme]

Hagler was a monster back in his prime middle weight days. He broke a lot of guys down over time in a fight, but he wasn't a big puncher. I don't see Calzaghe winning.

[roundingace]

The real question is "HOW LONG DOES CAL SURVIVE" lol.

Completely agree.

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I said that I wasn't a Calzaghe studier remember? But from what I've seen Joe's chin is unquestionable.

If you think Hagler was a big puncher then, no offense but, you're very wrong. Hagler was a brawler who wore down his opponents. Don't get caught up in numbers because then you might think that even Joe has a decent whack by looking at ko%.

Hagler was more of a boxer-puncher who wore down opponents, who could brawl effectively when the time came for it.

As for the matchup, well Calzaghe's chances are getting sold short here. You never really know how effective a fighter is going to be when he moves up in weight. Hagler was very skilled, but he was not exactly that tall or rangy for his division.

Calzaghe would be a light-heavyweight in Hagler's prime. Spinks and Qawi publically expressed interested in fights with Hagler, and they would've made good money. Hagler (or his management) wasn't interested.

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depends on how much hagler respected calzaghe.

hagler was mediocre against duran and leonard because he was in awe of their fame and celebrity.

I think Hagler got too much flack for the Duran fight. He maybe was too respectful of Duran, but I thought he won clearly. The judges were drunk. I had it 10-4-1 for Hagler.

With Leonard, Hagler had slowed down. He had looked slower and more hittable post-1983. Leonard was probably at a bigger disadvantage though. Past his prime also, having been away for so long, a smaller guy, etc..

[BattlingNelson]

Hagler was more of a boxer-puncher who wore down opponents, who could brawl effectively when the time came for it.

As for the matchup, well Calzaghe's chances are getting sold short here. You never really know how effective a fighter is going to be when he moves up in weight. Hagler was very skilled, but he was not exactly that tall or rangy for his division.

Calzaghe would be a light-heavyweight in Hagler's prime. Spinks and Qawi publically expressed interested in fights with Hagler, and they would've made good money. Hagler (or his management) wasn't interested.

So who would you pick?

[Ryn0]

This shouldn't even be a question it's whether Hagler wins by Decision on KO. I think Calzaghe's chin in his prime is good enough so Hagler walks Calzaghe down to an easy UD.

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Watts was a good Philly fighter, Hagler was just learning his trade around that time, he also avenged the Watts loss in 2 rounds a few years later.

That was also the controversial loss I think. I have it but haven't got around to watching it and scoring it.

I think Wille Monroe was the clear loss, which he later avenged. Whatever Hagler's first loss was to, that was the controversial one.

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So who would you pick?

Probably Hagler, but not with as much confidence as everyone else.

Calzaghe is one of my least favorite big name fighters right now, but he is indeed a very good fighter, and bigger in size than Hagler.

If they were the same size, then I'd pick Hagler with no hesitation.

[BattlingNelson]

This is a more difficult matchup than most posters seem to think. Two major things would favor Calzaghe. The weight and the distance. Hagler was always comfortable at 160 and he was definetely a 15 round fighter. The fight being over 12 at 168 is not good for Hagler.

A prime Hagler was relentless with underrated boxing-skills and arguably a top-3 all-time MW. The pressure and determination Hagler possesed would surely not please Joe. But then again the volume and work-rate of Calzaghe wouldn't suit Hagler. There might be only one Marvin Hagler, but there certainly is also only one Joe Calzaghe.

The popular choice according to the poll is obviously Hagler and I also think he will win. But it would be a very close decision fight that I could see go either way.

Forget a stoppage. This is 2 of the best chins in boxing history.

Probably Hagler, but not with as much confidence as everyone else.

Calzaghe is one of my least favorite big name fighters right now, but he is indeed a very good fighter, and bigger in size than Hagler.

If they were the same size, then I'd pick Hagler with no hesitation.

I took Hagler as well. No KO in this fight. My response is above.

[TheGreatA]

Hagler was more of a boxer-puncher who wore down opponents, who could brawl effectively when the time came for it.

As for the matchup, well Calzaghe's chances are getting sold short here. You never really know how effective a fighter is going to be when he moves up in weight. Hagler was very skilled, but he was not exactly that tall or rangy for his division.

Calzaghe would be a light-heavyweight in Hagler's prime. Spinks and Qawi publically expressed interested in fights with Hagler, and they would've made good money. Hagler (or his management) wasn't interested.

Hagler did have a long arms for his size. Despite being about an inch shorter than Calzaghe, his reach is longer.

Many of Hagler's opponents commented on how hard it was to fight him because of the length of his arms, they would believe to be out of his reach and the next they are hit with Hagler's leaping right hand. He used that punch to great effect.

Calzaghe is bigger than Hagler, but Hagler fought many who were as tall/taller than Joe, no one with a bigger frame though. I have no idea how it would play into this fight, in my opinion despite the size difference Hagler is the bigger puncher.

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