Calzaghe/Pavlik vs Hopkins

[RodBarker]

I think you'll hear mostly the positive sides of Hopkins and a win over him for Pavlik, if he'd beat him. Whereas for Calzaghe it was only the negatives brought up, and afterwards.

Hopkins was more of a style nitemare for Joe don't forget. Joe had a bad performance. And Hopkins is even older.

So really, Pavlik needs to UD or KO late for it to be a similar win in some respects.

A KO for Pavlik is a similar win that Joe had , youve got to be joking Joe got decked and struggled and many say he lost if Pavlik KOs Bhop its a very good win way better than Joes considering Joe is labeled by you guys as this 168 ATG while Kelly is 160 hype job , we will see who the hype Job is .

[abadger]

A KO for Pavlik is a similar win that Joe had , youve got to be joking Joe got decked and struggled and many say he lost if Pavlik KOs Bhop its a very good win way better than Joes considering Joe is labeled by you guys as this 168 ATG while Kelly is 160 hype job , we will see who the hype Job is .

Do you honestly think Calzaghe got decked? Fair enough if you do, but to my eyes Calzaghe threw way more, landed way more and won the fight very clearly. Looking scrapy landing punches is not the same thing as not landing punches, and Calzaghe looked scrappy, but did land. I have no problem with anyone saying Hopkins landed the cleaner harder shots, its true, but in the second half of the fight he probably missed more than Joe did and landed a negligible amount of them. The punching styles of the two guys can be deceiving, you have to look at what actually happened, rather than the aesthetics of it.

[Kris Silver]

A KO for Pavlik is a similar win that Joe had , youve got to be joking Joe got decked and struggled and many say he lost if Pavlik KOs Bhop its a very good win way better than Joes considering Joe is labeled by you guys as this 168 ATG while Kelly is 160 hype job , we will see who the hype Job is .

I'm not sure you actually gave any considerable thought to what I actually wrote and what you were replying to there.

Styles make fights. Hopkins is a complete style opposite and style nitemare for Joe Calzaghe, this is well known. He doesn't cope well with such styles and no one is like Hops.

Calzaghe also had a bad performance.

Hopkins will be another 6 months older.

Hopkins is less of a STYLE nitemare for Pavlik, than he is Calzaghe.

Calzaghe looks to win UD's these days with speed not power.

Pavlik hits a hell of a lot harder than Calzaghe and looks to KO.

So it's not at all un reasonable to weigh it up as a KO or UD will be easier to achieve and likely for Pavlik as opposed to Calzaghe.

Wouldn't take much away from Pavlik for the win, it'd be good defo. But these factors are pretty reasonable and well known.

[Chunk..]

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[RodBarker]

Do you honestly think Calzaghe got decked? Fair enough if you do, but to my eyes Calzaghe threw way more, landed way more and won the fight very clearly. Looking scrapy landing punches is not the same thing as not landing punches, and Calzaghe looked scrappy, but did land. I have no problem with anyone saying Hopkins landed the cleaner harder shots, its true, but in the second half of the fight he probably missed more than Joe did and landed a negligible amount of them. The punching styles of the two guys can be deceiving, you have to look at what actually happened, rather than the aesthetics of it.

Mate he got decked as clean as a whistle there is no argument , I thought Joe won but was not impressive and I,ll say it again if Pavlik KOs Bhop its a infinitely more impressive win than Joes over Bhop , now by your reasoning that Kelly is easy for Joe then Bhop should beat Kelly easy , we will see .

[Kris Silver]

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Never went away mate. You sure can, but I think you might be sipping Reed's Red Bulls lately though!?! I'm a Calzaghe fan and love pictures of boxing, but I miss the wide range of nipple erecto's in your avatars.

[RodBarker]

I'm not sure you actually gave any considerable thought to what I actually wrote and what you were replying to there.

Styles make fights. Hopkins is a complete style opposite and style nitemare for Joe Calzaghe, this is well known. He doesn't cope well with such styles and no one is like Hops.

Calzaghe also had a bad performance.

Hopkins will be another 6 months older.

Hopkins is less of a STYLE nitemare for Pavlik, than he is Calzaghe.

Calzaghe looks to win UD's these days with speed not power.

Pavlik hits a hell of a lot harder than Calzaghe and looks to KO.

So it's not at all un reasonable to weigh it up as a KO or UD will be easier to achieve and likely for Pavlik as opposed to Calzaghe.

Wouldn't take much away from Pavlik for the win, it'd be good defo. But these factors are pretty reasonable and well known.

Dont try and baffle me with bull**** , bottom line if Kelly can KO Bhop its a better win than Joe by a country mile .

[Chunk..]

Never went away mate. You sure can, but I think you might be sipping Reed's Red Bulls lately though!?! I'm a Calzaghe fan and love pictures of boxing, but I miss the wide range of nipple erecto's in your avatars.

Am looking for a suitable sig as we speak, one that will meet the standard requirements.....Nice **** and an arse.

[Kris Silver]

Dont try and baffle me with bull**** , bottom line if Kelly can KO Bhop its a better win than Joe by a country mile .

Nice, so you reply again without actually taking on board or responding to any of the points made. Again, what I said are short, reasonable well known factors. You can run and hide from them all you want but all it shows is an un willingness to fairly weigh up the known factors of wins for different fighters with different styles, scenarios, in different fights.

Fighter A does not = fighter B.

So their wins against fighter C have to be weighed up considering styles, age, tactics, previous performances, usual winning style, power, speed and more.

If you can't accept such a basic thing as this in comparing boxers then your incredibly simplistic in your assessments.

[abadger]

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