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    Floyd Shouldn't Have To Face The Best At 147

    Simply because he was at his best at 130-135. Welterweight is 17 pounds higher than his best showings which were at 130 and 135 respectively. Sugar Ray Leonard started at 147 and fought his best fights there. He only fought at 160 four times 168 once and 154 once. So when people say Leonard fought the best, well yeah, but they were at his natural weight. Did we see Leonard fight the best at 168 in LaLonde when he fought there once? No, and we shouldnt expect that, being that is way above his best weight.

    People forget or don't realize that Floyd turned professional in 1996, in 1993 as an amateur he fought at 106 and in 1994 he fought at 114, nobody moves up like that and if they do its after many years. Again welterweight is 17 pounds higher than his best weight and he even fought at 154 once, 24 pounds above his best weight, people dont seem to realize this when comparing Floyd to others. What you have to ask yourself is whomever you are comparing him to, did that fighter continously fight the best at weights much higher than their best weights, odds are they didnt.
    Last edited by Bhopreign; 08-02-2008, 03:19 PM.

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    Originally posted by Bhopreign View Post
    Simply because he was at his best at 130-135. Welterweight is 17 pounds higher than his best showings which were at 130 and 135 respectively. Sugar Ray Leonard started at 147 and fought his best fights there. He only fought at 160 four times 168 once and 154 once. So when people say Leonard fought the best, well yeah, but they were at his natural weight. Did we see Leonard fight the best at 168 in LaLonde when he fought there once? No, and we shouldnt expect that, being that is way above his best weight.

    Again welterweight is 17 pounds higher than his best weight and he even fought at 154 once, 24 pounds above his best weight, people dont seem to realize this when comparing Floyd to others. What you have to ask yourself is whomever you are comparing him to, did that fighter continously fight the best at weights much higher than their best weights, odds are they didnt.
    Thus Floyd should not be compared to Roberto Duran, who was at his best at 135 and fought the best all the way to 160.

    You can't have your cake and eat it too.

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      #3
      he was lucky is not as packed as it is right now,

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        #4
        Originally posted by Bhopreign View Post
        Simply because he was at his best at 130-135. Welterweight is 17 pounds higher than his best showings which were at 130 and 135 respectively. Sugar Ray Leonard started at 147 and fought his best fights there. He only fought at 160 four times 168 once and 154 once. So when people say Leonard fought the best, well yeah, but they were at his natural weight. Did we see Leonard fight the best at 168 in LaLonde when he fought there once? No, and we shouldnt expect that, being that is way above his best weight.

        Again welterweight is 17 pounds higher than his best weight and he even fought at 154 once, 24 pounds above his best weight, people dont seem to realize this when comparing Floyd to others. What you have to ask yourself is whomever you are comparing him to, did that fighter continously fight the best at weights much higher than their best weights, odds are they didnt.
        what about hagler???????????????????????

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          #5
          Originally posted by adrsan84 View Post
          Thus Floyd should not be compared to Roberto Duran, who was at his best at 135 and fought the best all the way to 160.

          You can't have your cake and eat it too.
          Exactly and look at what Duran accomplished, even if he didn't beat all the best he still fought them; From Benitez to Leonard

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            #6
            Originally posted by Melly-Mel View Post
            what about hagler???????????????????????
            That was one fight and very controversial, what about Floyd fighting Oscar, 24 pounds higher than 130, 160 is 13 pounds higher than 147, huge difference. Im not downing Leonard but many hate on Floyd not realizing that its asking alot to move up that high and face guys who are their best there when you were your best many many weight levels down.

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              #7
              mayweather retired

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                #8
                To a certain degree, I agree. However, his fans shouldn't have tried to call him the best welterweight out there, either.

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                  Originally posted by Bhopreign View Post
                  That was one fight and very controversial, what about Floyd fighting Oscar, 24 pounds higher than 130, 160 is 13 pounds higher than 147, huge difference. Im not downing Leonard but many hate on Floyd not realizing that its asking alot to move up that high and face guys who are their best there when you were your best many many weight levels down.
                  Your point is well understood, but even when you make it all it does is diminish his status compared to the greats who have faced all comers. Roberto Duran could have moved up and fought the weaker guys in the divisions and avoided real threats, but he didn't he fought other ALL TIME GREATS, not just the top dogs in the division, ALL TIME GREATS. He won some and he lost some but the fact that he did puts him above Floyd in my estimation and in the estimation of many others.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by C-Drone View Post
                    To a certain degree, I agree. However, his fans shouldn't have tried to call him the best welterweight out there, either.
                    Skill wise he is.

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