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"HBO Should Have Forced Calzaghe-Pavlik," Says Arum

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    #31
    Calzaghe never ducked Pavlik. If Pavlik wanted to fight Cal, he should've went to 175. Arum promotes Pavlik so why else would that sorry sack of **** say what he said. Arum mentioning HBO should "force anyone" is absurd, and an insult to boxing. Arum never spoke to Abraham's people to side step Marquez so that PAv and Abraham can get it on. As long as Arum can put his fighters in with beatable comp, he will milk them until they are forced to fight someone with a pulse. The sooner Arum is out of boxing, the better.

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      #32
      always haters

      now joe ducks pavlick. they said joe ducked jones, and hopkins. if they would fight, joe would whip cement feet pavlick and then you'd say he's ducking David Haye. it will never stop. 39-0, the guy could fight who he wants. might as well say tha cotto ducked so many too. fighting a junior welterweight in judah, Alfonso Gomez...what joke that was. seriously, PPV numbers. alot more buys if it's jones vs joe, ALOT more. i even believe there is higher risk in this one because jones only has to be a shade of his old self to be dominent. But you guys will say jones was overated,never fought anybody. you're maybe right. the only recognized pound for pound fighter for like 5 years in a row. Make some money boys, have fun and don't get hurt, you can replace lampley anytime on HBO.

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        #33
        Originally posted by boofdatruth View Post
        Calzaghe never ducked Pavlik. If Pavlik wanted to fight Cal, he should've went to 175. Arum promotes Pavlik so why else would that sorry sack of **** say what he said. Arum mentioning HBO should "force anyone" is absurd, and an insult to boxing. Arum never spoke to Abraham's people to side step Marquez so that PAv and Abraham can get it on. As long as Arum can put his fighters in with beatable comp, he will milk them until they are forced to fight someone with a pulse. The sooner Arum is out of boxing, the better.
        agree, ARUM IS POS

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          #34
          Originally posted by eav View Post
          now joe ducks pavlick. they said joe ducked jones, and hopkins. if they would fight, joe would whip cement feet pavlick and then you'd say he's ducking David Haye. it will never stop. 39-0, the guy could fight who he wants. might as well say tha cotto ducked so many too. fighting a junior welterweight in judah, Alfonso Gomez...what joke that was. seriously, PPV numbers. alot more buys if it's jones vs joe, ALOT more. i even believe there is higher risk in this one because jones only has to be a shade of his old self to be dominent. But you guys will say jones was overated,never fought anybody. you're maybe right. the only recognized pound for pound fighter for like 5 years in a row. Make some money boys, have fun and don't get hurt, you can replace lampley anytime on HBO.
          haha... well put. But IMO Joe didn't want **** to do with PAV... Like you said, Jones is the bigger fight and YES there could be more of a danger taking this fight. IT just depends on which Roy jones shows up. Either way, Jones Calzaghe or Pavlik Calzaghe there is a lot of money to be made and HBO YES should take the money and get new commentator(s)

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            #35
            Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
            Enzo himself in several interviews including Warren, said it's upto Joe who he fights. Joe openly said from the start Roy was his 1st preference, and HE ALONE has arranged it, without even a promoter. So your factually completely wrong.

            WESS, you really must stop talking about what you clearly don't know about, and just assume to suite your bias.
            nice sig ****. Why don't you try this one . . .

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              #36
              Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
              Enzo himself in several interviews including Warren, said it's upto Joe who he fights. Joe openly said from the start Roy was his 1st preference, and HE ALONE has arranged it, without even a promoter. So your factually completely wrong.

              WESS, you really must stop talking about what you clearly don't know about, and just assume to suite your bias.
              or this one. . . .

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                #37
                Arum is funny

                Arum is criticizing HBO for not ordering Calzaghe/Pavlik, so now he counters by having his man fight someone who is much smaller than he is?

                Pavlik is a huge middleweight. By the time he enters the ring, he is a light heavyweight. Paul Williams will be right around 160 on the night of the fight. While I like both fighters, I don't like the fight. Pavlik should knockout Williams.

                If Williams took a couple of fights at middleweight, and got used to the added weight, then this would be a competitive fight. As of right now, I view this as nothing more than an execution to help raise Pavlik's stock.

                That is the real problem with boxing. Arum did the same thing with De La Hoya. He had him fight a bunch of people smaller than him to gain him more fame.

                Pavlik should be fighting other the other middleweight champions like Abraham, and Stern. Or, he could fight Kessler, which would be an entertaining fight.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by bearsworld View Post
                  Arum is criticizing HBO for not ordering Calzaghe/Pavlik, so now he counters by having his man fight someone who is much smaller than he is?

                  Pavlik is a huge middleweight. By the time he enters the ring, he is a light heavyweight. Paul Williams will be right around 160 on the night of the fight. While I like both fighters, I don't like the fight. Pavlik should knockout Williams.

                  If Williams took a couple of fights at middleweight, and got used to the added weight, then this would be a competitive fight. As of right now, I view this as nothing more than an execution to help raise Pavlik's stock.

                  That is the real problem with boxing. Arum did the same thing with De La Hoya. He had him fight a bunch of people smaller than him to gain him more fame.

                  Pavlik should be fighting other the other middleweight champions like Abraham, and Stern. Or, he could fight Kessler, which would be an entertaining fight.
                  Def a Kessler and Pavlik... that would be a good fight or test for him... We can only wish

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by seebert View Post
                    or this one. . . .

                    Nice effort.

                    Apparently design classes have been introduced at pre school level, interesting.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Chew BackAtacha View Post
                      pavliks over-rated, he's too slow for Calzaghe, Calzaghe in his prime would have had Pavilk for dinner
                      Yeah right! Calzaghe sucks. He couldn't carry Hopkins jock strap and he was 43 years old...Calzaghe's nothing but a chicken **** slapper who couldn't hurt a fly.

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