Sulaiman's Position on Pacquiao's "Title" Controversy

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Maybe Nathanielz Was Expecting Something Along These Lines...


"in This Day And Age Where More And More Sanctioning Bodies Are Coming Out Of The Woodwork Adding To The Confusion And Proclaiming Their Legitimacy Above All The Other Alphabelts, Diluting The Essence Of What Being A World Champion Is All About, And Where Payment Of Sanctioning Fees Is Of The Utmost Importance In Determining Whether The Current Champs Deserve To Hold On To Their Straps Or Whether They Should Be Stripped For Being Penny Pushing Scrooges, And Where Undeserving Mandatory Fights Should Take Precedence And Get In The Way Of The Best Match Ups Available, Who Am I, A Longtime Boxing Fixture Who Has Outlived His Usefulness And Relevance In The Sport To Deny Manny Pacquiao The Honor Of Being Recognized As The True Lineal Featherweight Champion By Soundly Dominating And Defeating The Best Feather Weight On The Planet, The Mexican Legend Marco Antonio Barrera, Who At The Time Thought It Fitting To Dump His Version Of My Beloved Wbc’s Trinket In The Nearest Trash Bin. Manny Is Rightly A 5-division Champ And I Have Become A Big Joke.

and Btw, Can Anyone Refer Me To The Best Liposuction Clinic Where I Can Get More **** For My Sanctioning Bucks? " - Jose Sulaiman

Lol!!!!!!!

[bhijae]

In Sulaiman's eyes he's not a 5th division champ but in fan's

mind he's a 5th division champion, we all see how he beat

Barrera.. the man in his division!!

[miron_lang]

Lol!!!!!!!

hi there pal.

the leonard light heavy stuff is really a great ammo. Thanks

[Jknows]

well if they tryin to diss pacman it'll be alright pacman most likely win another belt anyway probably from hatton..he should try to even push for a title fight at 147 but its very risky to do that...

[grayfist]

hi there pal.

the leonard light heavy stuff is really a great ammo. Thanks

Heya there, buddy! LOL!!!

Their past coming back to haunt them, pal. LOL!!!

[2quick2slick]

Ring title is 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times better than Sulaiman's WBC crap. Hell, you can even purchase a genuine WBC belt online. If you got the dough, you can have the belt displayed in your living room in no time. Sulaiman is such a ****ing crook.

That's the reason why Barrera trashed that belt.

[mexicomanda1]

i absolutely agree with jose sulaiman. why should he make an exception for pacquiao where fighters of yesteryear's RING ****zine title were not counted?

[Chups]

Besides for the RING belt......it was for the LINEAL World Championship fight!! Sulaiman when are you going to croak?

[yah_boxing]

Ring title is 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times better than Sulaiman's WBC crap. Hell, you can even purchase a genuine WBC belt online. If you got the dough, you can have the belt displayed in your living room in no time. Sulaiman is such a ****ing crook.

That's the reason why Barrera trashed that belt.

I agree 100%. Sanctioning bodies are ruining the sport because its all a big con. At least the Ring ****zine has the name of every fighter in their rating.

With 1 Champ and belt in each weight class we might see more competitive and exciting match ups. Then you don't have the champion taking on just his mantadory when their is another champion with another belt claiming to be the best in the world when he might not be

WBC, WBA, WBO IBF etc = Rip Off

I remember Sulaiman trying to sucker everybody into beliving Tyson was robbed against Douglas, the mug.

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i absolutely agree with jose sulaiman. why should he make an exception for pacquiao where fighters of yesteryear's RING ****zine title were not counted?

Maybe he can't make exceptions about fighters in the past for a reason that comes quickly to mind:

He cannot make exceptions because all the past fighters who were awarded The Ring belt had some other belt or belts (NYSAC, California Version, NBA, WBA and WBC), until later stripped for some reason. Most of them, if not all, were lineal champions who took alphabet belts in passing, sort of.

Be that as it may, I'd like to point out:

When Larry Holmes dumped his WBC belt, the twaddling IBF, starving to attain stature and some legitimacy, quickly conferred upon Holmes its version of the Heavyweight title. Holmes did not sweat for the belt; it was given to him who had no other belt left but The Ring's and the beltless (but more important) status of Lineal World Heavyweight Champion.

I'm not sure about this but I think that, had the IBF not done so, Holmes would have been the first to defend his title on the basis of The Ring's recognition and his title's lineal provenance (when he dumped the WBC belt, he did not lose his lineal championship status). Please...Anyone. Please remind me of someone who fought solely for a beltless (in the alphabet sense) lineal title, before Holmes dumped his belt.

It is important to note that at the time that all these happened, the WBC did not recognize IBF champions. The WBC even had a policy of stripping its champions who fought unification matches against IBF title holders. In the eyes of the WBC at the time, therefore, Holmes vs. Spinks was a match for no belt. But has anyone heard Sulaiman refer to that match as such in the past couple of decades? Has anyone heard Sulaiman say that Holmes-Spinks was a non-title fight in the same manner that he is now declaring Barrera-Pacquiao I a fight for no title?

Anyhow, years later, Barrera did some kind of a Larry Holmes, but no IBF came to give him recognition. The WBO, an organization that Barrera helped attain stature (his first world title was under the WBO, at a time when other Bantamweight title holders pretended he did not exist), did not do an IBF. So, Barrera-Pacquiao I found itself to be a match for nothing more and nothing less than the LINEAL CHAMPIONSHIP and The Ring's recognition.

I therefore find it odd that Holmes' title (an IBF crown that the WBC and the WBA declared as non-existent at the time) should be ackowledged in good part due to its Lineal pedigree (and not as much for its being an IBF title), while a Pacquiao lineal crown cannot be. Moreover, I find it odd that NYSAC (by characterization by its own name, a statewide regulating agency,i.e., the State of New York) crowns and NBA (a national sanctioning body) belts are similarly recognized when a lineal crown cannot be when, in point of fact, Pacquiao's Featherweight lineal crown traces its roots tothe very same NBA and NYSAC.

I am not saying that the NYSAC and NBA titles should be trashed--they are golden. Veritable treasures whose value is seldom granted to alphabet belts.

All I'm saying is Pacquiao's Featherweight title should be viewed and recognized in accordance with its pedigree.

Whether Sulaiman does or does not make that recognition, can prove to be unimportant if boxing media and the fans unanimously insist that such should be granted to that milestone in Pacquiao's career.

The best way to put emphasis to this recognition is perhaps for the Boxing Writers Association of America (BWAA) to pass a "Sense of the Organization Resolution" (similar to what Congress sometimes does) to that effect. Although such a resolution binds none of the sanctioning bodies it shall do something...Who knows? Such a step may go beyond just emphasis. It may begin to further elevate the association to the position of arbiter on several disputes that plague boxing. At least, in the eyes of the public. And those eyes matter a lot.

Edit: Boxing writers may also want to look at expanding the parameters for nominees to the IBHOF, to include considerations for fighters winning LINEAL TITLES bereft of alphabet belts. I think they are in the best position to make that change. They vote at the IBHOF. Besides, they're the most credible lot in the boxing world, compared to promoters, sanctioning bodies and even a number of fighters.