Emmanuel Steward's Top 5 P4P

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Calzaghe has yet to defeat convincingly Hopkins in my book too!

Convincingly or not, he still beat him.

Pacquaio hasnt beat Marquez full stop.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Anyone notice how none of them are Black? Not trying to start a race war or anything. Just thought it was strange considering the history of the sport.

[shadeyfizzle]

Convincingly or not, he still beat him.

Pacquaio hasnt beat Marquez full stop.

Nice double standard you have going. So Pacquiao has yet to beat Marquez in your opinion even if official records say otherwise but Calzaghe's victory over an oldass hopkins regardless of how razor thin and controversial it may be should stand??

[shadeyfizzle]

Anyone notice how none of them are Black? Not trying to start a race war or anything. Just thought it was strange considering the history of the sport.

On the boxingscene's official p4p top 10 Mosley is the only black fighter on the top 10 and he's 10th. I think it may be the 1st time since the conception of the p4p that that's happened

[KILLA RIGHT]

1. Calzaghe
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Pacquiao

Pacquiao still has yet to defeat Marquez in my book.

Yup except i put cotto in front of manny

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Nice double standard you have going. So Pacquiao has yet to beat Marquez in your opinion even if official records say otherwise but Calzaghe's victory over an oldass hopkins regardless of how razor thin and controversial it may be should stand??

Im not going by "official records" in either case. Im going by what I saw and how I scored in. Calzaghe beat Hopkins, wasnt his best performance, wasnt convincing, didnt look great - but who does against Hopkins? He still won. So it stands in my book. This is MY p4p list im talking about. Its subjective.

In my opinion Marquez won at least one of the two fights hence he's above pacquiao.

[Kris Silver]

At the end of the replay of the Pacquiao-Diaz fight , Emmanuel stated his Top 5 pound for pound.

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Miguel Cotto
3. Joe Calzaghe
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Kelly Pavlik



Agree? Discuss.

Disapoints me. How he'd put Calzaghe 3rd I don't know, then put 2 well hyped local or local fighting guys in whom are still young and not done loads yet, is beyond me. Pavlik 5th and Cotto 2nd. WTF, even Kessler would beat Pavlik.

[shadeyfizzle]

Im not going by "official records" in either case. Im going by what I saw and how I scored in. Calzaghe beat Hopkins, wasnt his best performance, wasnt convincing, didnt look great - but who does against Hopkins? He still won. So it stands in my book. This is MY p4p list im talking about. Its subjective.

In my opinion Marquez won at least one of the two fights hence he's above pacquiao.

Ohhhh....ok. Gotcha.

[abadger]

At the end of the replay of the Pacquiao-Diaz fight , Emmanuel stated his Top 5 pound for pound.

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Miguel Cotto
3. Joe Calzaghe
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Kelly Pavlik



Agree? Discuss.

No huge problems with this list, I don't think Cotto deserves to be above Calzaghe at this point and he certainly isn't a more skilled boxer, but its not ludicrous.

I do think Pavlik is too high, I mean this hign P4P status seems to depend entirely on his two wins over Taylor, which I think is a bit flimsy really. I don't think it should be possible to get into the top 5 P4P when you've only defended your title once, against Gary Lockett.

[sterling]

i dont agree with jmm being on the list and cotto being higher then calzaghe hmmm debateable.