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    The myth of the Klitschkos

    I'm going to be pretty brief as I can't be assed typing out a prolonged spiel. But here's how I see it...coming down the stretch of Lennox Lewis' career boxing fans and press began to speculate about the next great heavyweight fighters that could feasibly fill the void left by Lewis...Wladimir Klitschko was the man they elected to fill that void. He was big and strong and athletic, with an unbeaten record and a phd. He had beaten some okay fighters like Jameel McCline. The litmus test hadn't yet arrived. Either way he got blown apart by an elder statesman of the division, Corrie Sanders, in two rounds. **** goes heavyweight contender mark 1. Enter his brother, Vitali. The pair have similar styles; I've never liked their styles; upright, stiff, no style or grace or canny footwork; I tend to like fighters with these attributes, Pernell Whitaker, Joe Walcott, Ray Robinson, Tommy Hearns, James Toney etc. So I was never endeared to the Klitschkos. I quite liked Lewis - he was big but he could move well, and he was all round fighter. He was clever in the ring too, and had a tremendous right hand. He was proven.

    Vitali had no big names on his record prior to fighting an out-of-shape and undermotivated Lennox Lewis in 03. It was a bloody battle. Both of them were gassed, Lewis landed big, Klitschko landed big, they stood firm; it was sloppy, engrossing, bloody. Klitschkos face got shredded and the docs understandably stopped it...Klitschko made a name by fighting in level terms with an out of shape Lewis, in the champs final fight.

    Imagine Ray Mercer had sustained a cut in his fight with Lewis after a few rounds, and it got halted...Vitalis elevation to the top of the HW crown was the equivalent of doing the same to Ray back in 95 (?) when he fought Len first time out, which woulda been bull****, as it was with VK..

    Anyway look, Vitali is a goddam myth, he aint fought nobody. Danny Williams, what? He quit against Byrd because of a shoulder problem. He's got a nothing record. He hasn't fought in years. If he fights Sam Peter he's gonna get run over, Sam is the best fighter he'd have fought save for Lewis, and given Lennox' flat footed and lackadaisacal performance then Peter, the shape he's in now, his workrate, is the BEST he'd face.

    Wladimir has carved out a good spot for himself in boxing, but still I ask, who has he beaten? He's still found ways to get his ass knocked out. By chumps. He's a good puncher, and he's pretty solid. But his style sucks. His last fight was a disgrace. HW champs do not perform like that; they dont just jab. It was embarassing.

    I think neither of them have did anything of merit to be considered great heavyweights, they're merely filling a big void in HW boxing, it's like if there had been no Holy, Lewis or Tyson in the nineties and big, athletic but styleless fighters like Tommy Morrison or Shannon Briggs would be at the top of the tree. The Klitschkos dont impress me at all, and I'm backing David Haye and Sam Peter, two genuinely exciting and crippling punchers to inject some life into this wasteland of a division

    #2
    Originally posted by Kilrain View Post
    I'm going to be pretty brief
    Lol, so much for that. Nice post though.

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      #3
      Vitali had a lot of potential to become the next great heavyweight but unfortunately his constant injuries and subsequent retirement doesn't make him great at all, in his biggest fights against Byrd and Lewis, he lost, it doesn't matter if he was ahead on the scorecards, it'll always go down as a L on his record.

      I think Wladimir should be ranked higher than Vitali when it's all said and done if Vitali just comes back for 1 fight against Peter and retires again but I don't think Wlad is great either, he's a very good fighter but not great yet IMO.
      Last edited by Silencers; 06-27-2008, 03:45 AM.

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        #4
        i like wlad, but i cant consider him nor his brother as great fighters. Of the 2, Wlad has more star power overall, and is marketed better that his older brother was.

        anyway they dont have any outstanding names on their records. Wlad still has a potential to beef up his record. Im not sure how great, or if in fact he'll become a great once his career is finished, but he'll be a problem for almost anyone based on his size and power

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          #5
          Originally posted by Kilrain View Post
          I'm going to be pretty brief as I can't be assed typing out a prolonged spiel. But here's how I see it...coming down the stretch of Lennox Lewis' career boxing fans and press began to speculate about the next great heavyweight fighters that could feasibly fill the void left by Lewis...Wladimir Klitschko was the man they elected to fill that void. He was big and strong and athletic, with an unbeaten record and a phd. He had beaten some okay fighters like Jameel McCline. The litmus test hadn't yet arrived. Either way he got blown apart by an elder statesman of the division, Corrie Sanders, in two rounds. **** goes heavyweight contender mark 1. Enter his brother, Vitali. The pair have similar styles; I've never liked their styles; upright, stiff, no style or grace or canny footwork; I tend to like fighters with these attributes, Pernell Whitaker, Joe Walcott, Ray Robinson, Tommy Hearns, James Toney etc. So I was never endeared to the Klitschkos. I quite liked Lewis - he was big but he could move well, and he was all round fighter. He was clever in the ring too, and had a tremendous right hand. He was proven.

          Vitali had no big names on his record prior to fighting an out-of-shape and undermotivated Lennox Lewis in 03. It was a bloody battle. Both of them were gassed, Lewis landed big, Klitschko landed big, they stood firm; it was sloppy, engrossing, bloody. Klitschkos face got shredded and the docs understandably stopped it...Klitschko made a name by fighting in level terms with an out of shape Lewis, in the champs final fight.

          Imagine Ray Mercer had sustained a cut in his fight with Lewis after a few rounds, and it got halted...Vitalis elevation to the top of the HW crown was the equivalent of doing the same to Ray back in 95 (?) when he fought Len first time out, which woulda been bull****, as it was with VK..

          Anyway look, Vitali is a goddam myth, he aint fought nobody. Danny Williams, what? He quit against Byrd because of a shoulder problem. He's got a nothing record. He hasn't fought in years. If he fights Sam Peter he's gonna get run over, Sam is the best fighter he'd have fought save for Lewis, and given Lennox' flat footed and lackadaisacal performance then Peter, the shape he's in now, his workrate, is the BEST he'd face.

          Wladimir has carved out a good spot for himself in boxing, but still I ask, who has he beaten? He's still found ways to get his ass knocked out. By chumps. He's a good puncher, and he's pretty solid. But his style sucks. His last fight was a disgrace. HW champs do not perform like that; they dont just jab. It was embarassing.

          I think neither of them have did anything of merit to be considered great heavyweights, they're merely filling a big void in HW boxing, it's like if there had been no Holy, Lewis or Tyson in the nineties and big, athletic but styleless fighters like Tommy Morrison or Shannon Briggs would be at the top of the tree. The Klitschkos dont impress me at all, and I'm backing David Haye and Sam Peter, two genuinely exciting and crippling punchers to inject some life into this wasteland of a division
          I know the TRUTH when I hear it....and thats the TRUTH bro! good post!!

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            #6
            The thread starter Kilrain is one of the biggest Klitschko haters on Boxingscene....He is full of **** and he always goes out of his way to bash and discredit the Klitschkos.

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              #7
              The biggest myth about the Clits is that there impossible to out box, these guys are very stand up and stiff a fighter with good upper body movement and good footwork could beat them but there is no one like that around at the moment.

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                #8
                What a post. I can't agree more with it..

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by WLAD OWNS View Post
                  The thread starter Kilrain is one of the biggest Klitschko haters on Boxingscene....He is full of **** and he always goes out of his way to bash and discredit the Klitschkos.

                  You are a pure ****ing idiot, you know that?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
                    You are a pure ****ing idiot, you know that?
                    LOL dont forget to toss Tunney aka Canada Joe, aka Steelhammer86 into the mix

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