MAYWEATHER jr to sign with UFC!!!

[dfwtx]

Boxing is dead. MMA is the new sport. Dana White is a very smart man.

and you think they're going to give floyd 50 million dollar paydays on his debut match when their most seasoned fighters are making 500k-base max?

[Left Hook Tua]

Floyd would knock somebody out before they even get a chance to take him down.. lunging in and ****.. those who can't box, wrestle or do UFC.
Why you think boxers get payed more? Better profession.

ignorant statement. of course if one is good at both they'd choose boxing because there's most money in it.

as far as the statement those who can't box , wrestle or do ufc.

more kids wrestle than do boxing. do they have boxing teams in high school anymore? rarely. what's more known ncaa wrestling or ncaa boxing?

yes. if you have skills to be a pro boxer and skills to be a pro mma , obviously the money is in boxing.

but to say wrestlers and mma are guys who only do it because they can't box is ******.

the majority of mma guys are wrestlers and jiu-jitsu guys. not boxers who can't box.

[pugilistfan]

you don't train wrestling or jiu-jitsu in a year and get good at it.

it takes decade to be a brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt. he's gonna defend takedowns against guys who's been doing wrestling since high school?

it's not that easy. trust me.

Ok first off, BJ Penn makes NOWHERE near a million per fight. Nobody does. The biggest payday ever was Chuck Liddell who got a little over 500,000 in his against Rampage. Guys like Jardine, Griffin, Koscheck get absolute peanuts. In fact Jardine got 10,000 against Silva. These fighters get their money off endorsements but even than they are in the minority. Your lower end UFC guys work full-time jobs.

Many MMA fighters got BJJ black belts in a matter of years. BJ Penn, Jeff Joslin all got black belts in less than 3 years.

Secondly, having a black belt means nothing its about how you transfer it to MMA. Alberto Crane is a world-class BJJ champion and gets absolutely owned by guys with nowhere near the credentials. Kurt Pellegrino, Roger Huerta have nowhere near the pedigree and yet not only beat Alberto Crane but BEAT him at his OWN GAME.

Houston Alexander was a 35 year old ONE DIMENSIONAL mediocre boxer who wiped the floor with Keith Jardine who BEAT Liddell and he also holds a win over Alessio Sakara who is a UFC veteran.

If an athlete of the calibre of Mayweather dedicates himself he can be a great MMA fighter, fighting in the featherweight, bantamweight divisions. You dont need to be like BJ Penn on the ground. You just need to have a decent ground skills to prevent submissions and if you do they will stand the fight back up.

Mayweather is not going to MMA but hes a fantastic athlete and if fighters like Forrest Griffin, Houston ALexander, Keith Jardine, Tim Sylvia, Rich Franklin, Sean Sherk, Quinton Rampage Jackson, Chris Leben can thrive in MMA with LIMITED fighting backgrounds I think a world-class athlete like Mayweather despite his age can make a successful transition to MMA as well.

But lets be honest hes not going to MMA. At least I hope hes not. Im sick and tired of hearing his name in the paper. I just want him to fight Cotto and than he can disappear of the face of the earth.

[sunthunder]

Ok first off, BJ Penn makes NOWHERE near a million per fight. Nobody does. The biggest payday ever was Chuck Liddell who got a little over 500,000 in his against Rampage. Guys like Jardine, Griffin, Koscheck get absolute peanuts. In fact Jardine got 10,000 against Silva. These fighters get their money off endorsements but even than they are in the minority. Your lower end UFC guys work full-time jobs.

Many MMA fighters got BJJ black belts in a matter of years. BJ Penn, Jeff Joslin all got black belts in less than 3 years.

Secondly, having a black belt means nothing its about how you transfer it to MMA. Alberto Crane is a world-class BJJ champion and gets absolutely owned by guys with nowhere near the credentials. Kurt Pellegrino, Roger Huerta have nowhere near the pedigree and yet not only beat Alberto Crane but BEAT him at his OWN GAME.

Houston Alexander was a 35 year old ONE DIMENSIONAL mediocre boxer who wiped the floor with Keith Jardine who BEAT Liddell and he also holds a win over Alessio Sakara who is a UFC veteran.

If an athlete of the calibre of Mayweather dedicates himself he can be a great MMA fighter, fighting in the featherweight, bantamweight divisions. You dont need to be like BJ Penn on the ground. You just need to have a decent ground skills to prevent submissions and if you do they will stand the fight back up.

Mayweather is not going to MMA but hes a fantastic athlete and if fighters like Forrest Griffin, Houston ALexander, Keith Jardine, Tim Sylvia, Rich Franklin, Sean Sherk, Quinton Rampage Jackson, Chris Leben can thrive in MMA with LIMITED fighting backgrounds I think a world-class athlete like Mayweather despite his age can make a successful transition to MMA as well.

But lets be honest hes not going to MMA. At least I hope hes not. Im sick and tired of hearing his name in the paper. I just want him to fight Cotto and than he can disappear of the face of the earth.

BJ Penn and Jeff Joslin are hardly the standard examples for getting a BJJ black belt. The average is 8-10 years, there's a reason BJ is called "The Prodigy". He also won Mundials just after getting his black belt, beating guys who'd done BJJ since they were kids. He is not typical.

And the reason some BJJ blackbelts do great and some don't is due to the fact that there's a massive difference between doing BJJ and doing BJJ whilst being punched in the face. The lack of gi and addition of strikes greatly changes your game. Some adapt to it (Nogueira being the best example) and some don't (Crane being a good example).

And the idea that stuff like takedown defence and submission defence are easy to pick up is absurd. There are many fantastic strikers (whose striking far exceeds that of many mma fighters) from many backgrounds such as muay thai or K-1 who have tried to learn takedown defence, and for the most part very few succeed. Mirko Crocop is the striking convert who has done best, but even Crocop has been takendown, and had his weaknesses exploited. Sometimes the fear of being taken down is enough to make a great striker timid, and they can actually be out-struck standing by an opponent with inferior striking.

I mean when people say "all you have to do with a great boxer is teach them great takedown defence". The kind of takedown defence you're really talking about is olympic callibre wrestling, it's a ridiculous idea to think that just any boxer can come along at 30 and pick that up. There are so many strikers who have tried this and only Crocop has picked up this kind of defensive wrestling to the point when he reaches the top level in MMA. Better strikers than Crocop have tried and they haven't come close to reaching that top level of MMA.

[Left Hook Tua]

Ok first off, BJ Penn makes NOWHERE near a million per fight. Nobody does. The biggest payday ever was Chuck Liddell who got a little over 500,000 in his against Rampage. Guys like Jardine, Griffin, Koscheck get absolute peanuts. In fact Jardine got 10,000 against Silva. These fighters get their money off endorsements but even than they are in the minority. Your lower end UFC guys work full-time jobs.

Many MMA fighters got BJJ black belts in a matter of years. BJ Penn, Jeff Joslin all got black belts in less than 3 years.

Secondly, having a black belt means nothing its about how you transfer it to MMA. Alberto Crane is a world-class BJJ champion and gets absolutely owned by guys with nowhere near the credentials. Kurt Pellegrino, Roger Huerta have nowhere near the pedigree and yet not only beat Alberto Crane but BEAT him at his OWN GAME.

Houston Alexander was a 35 year old ONE DIMENSIONAL mediocre boxer who wiped the floor with Keith Jardine who BEAT Liddell and he also holds a win over Alessio Sakara who is a UFC veteran.

If an athlete of the calibre of Mayweather dedicates himself he can be a great MMA fighter, fighting in the featherweight, bantamweight divisions. You dont need to be like BJ Penn on the ground. You just need to have a decent ground skills to prevent submissions and if you do they will stand the fight back up.

Mayweather is not going to MMA but hes a fantastic athlete and if fighters like Forrest Griffin, Houston ALexander, Keith Jardine, Tim Sylvia, Rich Franklin, Sean Sherk, Quinton Rampage Jackson, Chris Leben can thrive in MMA with LIMITED fighting backgrounds I think a world-class athlete like Mayweather despite his age can make a successful transition to MMA as well.

But lets be honest hes not going to MMA. At least I hope hes not. Im sick and tired of hearing his name in the paper. I just want him to fight Cotto and than he can disappear of the face of the earth.

i made a mistake when i put per fight. i heard he made 1 million the last fight. obviously boxing makes more money than mma but there have been times when mma guys get paid good money. rickson gracie was rumored to have been paid $1 million dollars a piece for both his fights against the famous japanese wrestler takada. this was 10-11 years ago when pride just started out. i heard pride paid much better than the ufc as well before they got into their contract , legal and yakuza problems.

i know floyd is an excellent athlete but we don't know how well he'll adjust to mma he'll obviously be an excellent striker but mma is not all about striking. it's easier to learn submission defense and takedown defense than offense but that's just not enough. the first thing any mma guy will do is take it to the ground against him. no wrestler and bjj guy is dumb enough to stand and trade with floyd. think of one dimensional guys in boxing. if they're good enough at that one dimension they can be pretty good but there's always gonna be someone that exposes them. mma has more dimensions than boxing. not better but more dimensions. how many times did hatton grab him? how many times has he been in a clinch? in mma someone will grab him and clinch him and he's gonna end up on his back.

besides for the money floyd commands he's not getting into mma. and if he does they're not gonna pay him millions to fight nobodies. he's gonna be with the best and he'll be at a great disadvantage no matter how much he trains in wrestling and submission!

[Pullcounter]

This is the rumor going around the MMA boards...Dana White is either signing floyd jr and getting a tv deal to go along with it...Dana White will hold a press con next thrusday with the announcement that will shake up the MMA world he said.

floyd wont fight mma... he'll get submitted easily as he's not an mma fighter... but he'll help promote and maybe do commentary for ufc.

[Jim Jeffries]

Boxing is dead. MMA is the new sport. Dana White is a very smart man.

I think there is an MMA section of this site. Maybe your presence would be better suited over there. I can't say you'll be missed. MMA sucks by the way.

[BenL]

In boxing skills, yes, but what about his ground game? Hes not even a novice. He'd get worked by any top flight college wrestler right now.

So you've seen him fight on the ground then? Some people love to talk rubbish.

[El Chicano]

Gayweather is not joining the UFC, OK!

The End

[layzieb81]

If floyd goes to the ufc he will be back. All the americans are getting ****d by the brazillians in MMA. All their poster boys that represent the sport such as liddel, hughes, sherk and cotour can't compete with the new entry of fighters.