Are fighters allowed to harden their knuckles?

[2501]

now I know the amount of padding the glove provides would absorb most of the hardness of the knuckles, but it HAS to have a significant effect than if the knuckles were ordinary no?

[deuce_drop]

I remember watching this show on ancient Martial Arts on the history channel about 5-6 years ago. They did a segment on some dude who worked as a Police Enforcer in the 50's and 60's either China or Japan. I dont remember which one but guns were banned and even Police weren't allowed to carry them. He was a 1289128190890380 degree black belt in Kung Fu and practiced the Iron Body discipline. He would slightly punch small metal slabs for at least 1000x's a day to harden his knuckles and hands. Calcium started building over his knuckles and started to grow bony points on them. He said that he would knock out all the perps with just one punch. Dude arrested over 1000 organized crime violators apparently.

Would a boxer be allowed to do the same? If they started developing calcium deposits that hardened the hands a knuckles, would they be allowed to fight on?

I cant remember that guys name but the only thing I can find close to what resembles what he had on his knuckles were like this dude's

i don't think that there is anything saying that you can't condition your hands, it wouldn't make sense to not let a fighter prepare his body. plus like someone mentioned it's not like someone is ****ing with the gloves or the wraps.

i condition my hands almost everyday, i have a cinder block that i w****d with carpet, but it's the underside of the carpet, so it has a rough texture, i punch that, and i also do edge of hand chops on it, it's amazing how fast they toughen up, only thing is, if you hurt you hand it is extrtemely important to let it heal fully before doing any more conditioning.

[2501]

i dont see the point in trying to strengthen your knuckles. There are so many fighters out there, why not spend the time doing some skills training or cardiovascular, why waste it trying to be bruce lee.

im not suggesting it, i was just curious if something like that would ever be allowed.

[CardioMonster]

im not suggesting it, i was just curious if something like that would ever be allowed.

I was just making a general comment, not replying to your topic as such

[j]

damn! i don't know where to start....

i dont see the point in trying to strengthen your knuckles. There are so many fighters out there, why not spend the time doing some skills training or cardiovascular, why waste it trying to be bruce lee

first, bruce, afaik, didn't do a lot of or any conditioning of that sort. second, it is not wasting time if u box as a pro or serious amateur.

now I know the amount of padding the glove provides would absorb most of the hardness of the knuckles, but it HAS to have a significant effect than if the knuckles were ordinary no?

yes, it has an impact. imagine boxing without having to worry about the condition of your hands. and in streetfights, the fist is more like a big hammer than a fist. either way, it can make a big impact.

i condition my hands almost everyday, i have a cinder block that i w****d with carpet, but it's the underside of the carpet, so it has a rough texture, i punch that, and i also do edge of hand chops on it, it's amazing how fast they toughen up, only thing is, if you hurt you hand it is extrtemely important to let it heal fully before doing any more conditioning.

u are doing it wrong. that is closer to a karate way of conditioning - which may lead to hand problems. also, u didn't mention any topical recovery medicine that goes hand in hand with conditioning practices of this sort.

another point is it is not punching into something as hard as u can, or even hard. it is a softer process that takes a bit of time to allow your hands to adapt. from what i know, in 3 months u get a certain hardness. one full year gives u a real understanding of what u can eventually achieve down the road.

it is a gradual process that eventually hardens the skin and bones of the knuckles. it also helps u learn about hitting something with better alignment depending on the method. as i said, there are dozens if not more different programs.

always learn from a competent teacher dammit!!!

[ferocity]

Hardening your knuckles is bull****, and calcium deposits are bad news. The whole point of padding on the knuckles is to prevent that.

This guy is right.

I almost bought into the bull**** i was reading then Shawns post reminded me that fighters actually have surgery to remove calcium build up which is bad for boxers cause it cause them pain in a fight.

[j]

This guy is right.

I almost bought into the bull**** i was reading then Shawns post reminded me that fighters actually have surgery to remove calcium build up which is bad for boxers cause it cause them pain in a fight.

that is, respectfully, rediculous!

this is a different practice than what boxers do. and pan qing fu does a different practice than the safer ones i know of. even pan qing fu says it takes about only 30% power to knock someone out 'cause his hands are so hard. but, there are different ways to attain the same benefit than the way he uses.

you don't have built up calcium deposits if u do it right!


does kostya tszyu look like his hands are messed up and need surgery?

guys, why not talk and listen to someone who has experience in the martial arts instead of going by rumors and heresay?

[2501]

for those who missed it,

finally, you can't really see too well in this pic but you can some his knuckles in it..

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Pan Qingfu

"In the mid-1960s, gangsters in China were a major problem. Pan was asked to capture Triad leaders and ended up nabbing 23 of the worst, some single-handedly."

[CardioMonster]

Where is the evidence that this works. If you measured bone density before and after doing this training, then you might havre a point. Until then it is indeed heresay and conjecture.

[TheGreatA]

Louis' fists seemed to have been pretty hard.