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    Originally posted by Addison View Post
    Somebody take me through this. For real. I don't make threads like this but in this case we've reached an impasse. I have no idea how some of my friends here see Cotto winning. None at all sincerely.

    Take me through it in technical terms, because when threads got made referring to Cotto's ability to stand up to pressure, and Cotto's chin, there were non answers and tounge in cheek responses. Some Cotto supporters have already stepped forward and said they can't pick him. It's reality time.
    I think Cotto can box his way to a win in this fight, Look he has a few things going for him other than just his style. its Margaritos style that will allow him to fight a safe fight.
    For example Cotto would be best served to get inside and work the body and then get back out, (Step around) if he does this, Tonys sloppy footwork does not allow him to catch Cotto when he is stepping out the side door.
    when he doesnt want to fight, he can use simple side to side movement, Tony is the taller man and you really dont want to be on the end of his shots, but in reality Tony doesnt use that size to an advantage he doesnt have a good jab and usally when Tony trys to catch you with his right hand, he almost falls right into you (That is how bad his footwork and balance is)
    Most of Tonys wins that did come by way of knock out came when he had his man on the ropes with no where to hide So Cotto would more than likely be best served to not go straight back stay away from the ropes and honestly I would test Margarito see if he can fight going backwards, that is another question about Tony that hasnt been answered and Cotto is the perfect guy to get this done.
    Really for Cotto to win he just has to be Cotto, but he must show Tony respect all night if he falls asleep at the wheel he will get cracked and I dont think he will be lucky enough to get up off the deck after a Margarito bomb.
    its a basic inside boxing match, use that Cross over defense to keep Tonys uppercuts out of the mix, run off combonations and step around Cotto can do this all night taking advantage of Tonys bad feet, and if Cotto needs a rest he can get it on the outside as long as he keeps moving.

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      Tony Got 5 losses and Cotto is undefeated with Cotto having fought better opposition!!!

      ESPN top ten;

      1. Floyd Mayweather
      2. Miguel Cotto
      3. Antonio Margarito- Cotto's next victim (July 26)
      4. Shane Mosley- loss to Cotto
      5. Carlos Quintana- got stop by Cotto in just 5 rounds!
      6. Paul Williams loss To Quintana
      7. Zab Judah- Cotto TKO him!
      8. Joshua Clottey - loos to Tony
      9. Kermit Cintron- got KO twiced Tony
      10. Collazo- loss to Mosley

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        Originally posted by Rompeboca View Post

        Tony Got 5 losses and Cotto is undefeated with Cotto having fought better opposition!!!

        ESPN top ten;

        1. Floyd Mayweather
        2. Miguel Cotto
        3. Antonio Margarito- Cotto's next victim (July 26)
        4. Shane Mosley- loss to Cotto
        5. Carlos Quintana- got stop by Cotto in just 5 rounds!
        6. Paul Williams loss To Quintana
        7. Zab Judah- Cotto TKO him!
        8. Joshua Clottey - loos to Tony
        9. Kermit Cintron- got KO twiced Tony
        10. Collazo- loss to Mosley
        So! Cotto may end up with 1 July 26th and I think you know that is highley possible.

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          Originally posted by Rompeboca View Post

          Tony Got 5 losses and Cotto is undefeated with Cotto having fought better opposition!!!

          ESPN top ten;

          1. Floyd Mayweather
          2. Miguel Cotto
          3. Antonio Margarito- Cotto's next victim (July 26)
          4. Shane Mosley- loss to Cotto
          5. Carlos Quintana- got stop by Cotto in just 5 rounds!
          6. Paul Williams loss To Quintana
          7. Zab Judah- Cotto TKO him!
          8. Joshua Clottey - loos to Tony
          9. Kermit Cintron- got KO twiced Tony
          10. Collazo- loss to Mosley


          WOW, they have Luis Collazo ranked # 10 ??

          LOL, not bad.. where does ESPN have Margarito ranked?

          For the record: I witnessed the Cintron beating in person and Marg is a big and scary dude.

          I respect and like the guy, with that being said, Cotto wins !!

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            Originally posted by Addison View Post
            Ok, but a Margarito victory is predicated on his outgoing and not any sort of incoming damage. That's entirely negligable. Cotto can bring a bat into the ring. He's still going to get smashed up. 3 rounds, 6 rounds, 9 rounds, whatever - Margarito will be dishing out as much as he can take. Cotto cannot and will not be able to take as much as he can dish out.
            you're hypothesizing this fight assuming that Margarito cannot or will not be hurt and deturred by Cotto's offense. Assume that Cotto at least bothers Margarito with his jab and bursts of offense as much as Clottey did early changes that scenario entirely. Santos hurt Margarito with one punch on several occasions in there 2nd fight so I have to disregard the whole terminator theory. Margarito will stop coming forward as much, his output will be more tenative. This will allow Cotto to fight him closer to his own pace.

            Its hard to draw comparisons from the Mosley fight because Cotto fought a guy whose handspeed is still very fast and a guy who also packs a punch. You look at the Mosley fight and although Mosley lost when he pressures he was able to do so primarily because of how fast he closed distance and how good his footwork still is. Margarito just closes the distance punching or rushing. Its effective against many but Cotto will make him miss and make him pay on many occasions. Margarito will have his moments but I think they will be just that spots here and there and not enough to get it done for him.

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              Originally posted by Addison View Post
              Somebody take me through this. For real. I don't make threads like this but in this case we've reached an impasse. I have no idea how some of my friends here see Cotto winning. None at all sincerely.

              Take me through it in technical terms, because when threads got made referring to Cotto's ability to stand up to pressure, and Cotto's chin, there were non answers and tounge in cheek responses. Some Cotto supporters have already stepped forward and said they can't pick him. It's reality time.
              how can't he beat him? cotto is better than margarito in everything,this is like most cotto fights people expect and hope that cotto will get knocked out but it doesn't happen plus margarito doesn't seem to hit that hard

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                Originally posted by Addison View Post
                Somebody take me through this. For real. I don't make threads like this but in this case we've reached an impasse. I have no idea how some of my friends here see Cotto winning. None at all sincerely.

                Take me through it in technical terms, because when threads got made referring to Cotto's ability to stand up to pressure, and Cotto's chin, there were non answers and tounge in cheek responses. Some Cotto supporters have already stepped forward and said they can't pick him. It's reality time.
                Cotto will outbox Margarito. Cotto's got better handspeed and footspeed and better boxing skills.

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                  Miguel Cotto was rocked by Torres and Corley when Cotto was struggling to make weight (140) and he was dehidrated as fu** and is obvious that his chin is not the
                  best of the sport but I'm pretty sure that Margarito have to hit him more than once in the same spot (chin) to hurt Cotto. Now what about Margarito's Defense.... one of the worst at 147, no foot work and no counter punch ability what so ever thats when Cotto
                  offense (one of the best at 147) come in place... Margarito sure have a good chin but not so sure about whats going to happen when Cotto start hamering those ribs... Cotto is going to take the lack of speed and latteral movement from Margo ....... at the end I see a UD for cotto

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                    Originally posted by Thread Stealer View Post
                    Use his better boxing skills, superior speed and defense, ability to use the ring, etc..

                    I think Cotto will have to be very wary of the uppercut, among other punches.
                    superior to who? floyd? do you watch boxing or?

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                      Originally posted by BMWM3P View Post
                      Unlike Margarito, Judah and Urkal try to block and slip punches. Margarito blocks punches with his head, his main defense is his nonstop offense. Cotto's going to disrupt that offense by outboxing Margarito and making him pay when he comes in. Margarito can take a lot of punishment but he hasn't fought anyone with Cotto's power, the punishment is going to add-on he will start to fade in the later rounds and that's when Cotto is going to jump in and finish him. Cotto by TKO 11.
                      Here's the problem, B; my post was framed ^ within the context of Cotto's full body assualt and how long he needs for it to take it's toll. If Cotto is going upstairs it doesn't matter who he's hitting - he's not a knockout puncher. If Cotto is going to the body full tilt he can get guys out of there somewhere with 12.

                      Margarito hasn't fought anyone with Cotto's power?? Are you sure about that? Again, if you aren't focusing on Cotto's body technique I'd say you're off the mark. I detailed this myself. Frankly, this ^ is a recipe for disaster.

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