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PAVLIK needs to get with FREDDIE ROACH already!

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    #21
    I agree that Pavlik should get a higher quality trainer. Pavliks is Lowes first big time fighter, and i REALLY REALLY doubt that he can carry Pavlik on his shoulders at this level.

    They should bring a new, more experienced trainer to join the team, but not neccesarily take over the lead job. That way the story and loyalty remain intact

    Originally posted by -Hyperion- View Post
    roach sucks......6 years or so with vazquez and he dindt even taught him to jab his way inside...enter rudy perez and now vazquez is a p4p'er...
    I completely agree. Look at Pacquiao. Pacquiao has been with Roach for like a decade, and Pacquiao still cant box for ****. He has a better right hand... thats not much to show for a decades worth of work...

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      #22
      Roach is the most overrated ass trainer in boxing... What the **** has he done?? LOL where was the right hand he taught ******ed ass pacquiao?

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        #23
        he needs manny steward so he can work on his defense and cover his weak chin

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          #24
          Originally posted by -Hyperion- View Post
          roach sucks......6 years or so with vazquez and he dindt even taught him to jab his way inside...enter rudy perez and now vazquez is a p4p'er...
          Some fighter/trainer combonations don't work well together. Look at Emanual Steward who is regarded as a great trainer and his chemistry with Jermain Taylor.

          It's pretty ignorant to judge a trainer because of the results of one fighter..

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            #25
            Originally posted by ElGranLuchador View Post
            he needs manny steward so he can work on his defense and cover his weak chin
            Yeah, and get KTFO like Jermain did? After Jermain got a name for himself he hired Emanual Steward and look where that got him... He ended up going back with Nelson.

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              #26
              Bad move IMO. Being more aggressive will get Pavlik hurt. I think he has a good chin but he's not that skilled. He may get away with it for a while cuz of the weak middleweight division but someone will get him.

              I think Pavlik's reign will be short regardless of trainer. I doubt he goes longer than Jermain.

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                #27
                pavlik is fine with loew.

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