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RICKY HATTON: "I can't stop crying."
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Originally posted by squealpiggy View PostNo he wasn't. Utter garbage. Hatton had success early and when he regained his head a little in the tenth he had some success there too, but he walked into a beautiful hook and Floyd finished as the pound for pound number one should. It's OK to say that FLoyd was the better fighter without having to embellish his achievement. Be realistic.
Of course in your case you are the classic self hating brit who has to stand in opposition to your countrymen to give yourself a sense of superiority. You're the kind of guy who turns up to the pub wearing a Portugal shirt.
The people who rated Hatton's performance against Mayweather are the same people who said Castillo beat Floyd in their first fight...when actually Floyd beat him with one hand.
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Originally posted by squealpiggy View PostI have no idea why you would want to upset people like me. What do you have against handsome intellectuals anyway?
I hate blind fans who doesnt see thing the other way for there favourite fighter, Better yet hatton's fan are one of the worse non-boxing fans in this world, Hatton has loads of fans no doubt but they're the worst i have ever come across. They would go out of there way to make BS statements which look so intelligent to them..E.G one fan told me Hatton's win over Vince Philips is better than Mayweather's win over oscar at 154...Maussa/urango are deserving of a matchup with Hatton over Witter..., The only way Mayweather wins is by UD..f a KO happens in this fight then its mayweather getting KO....Just a few example....Also Naz losing to Barrera(P4P) was more embarrassing than hatton getting KTFO unto the Turnbuckle, As a boxing fan all this turns your stomach...I was even praying for a Mayweather win by the time the fight was annouce just to rub it in there faces by to get a comical KO just topped it off for me.
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Originally posted by ianwigley View PostThat's a load of garbage. Hatton had no success at all. He lost every round other than the second, he was schooled by a far superior fighter. Even the punch that Hatton supposedly wobbled Floyd with missed. He was no danger to Floyd at all. He was too 'inside' on Floyd, never gave himself chance to get any leverage on his punches as a result.
The people who rated Hatton's performance against Mayweather are the same people who said Castillo beat Floyd in their first fight...when actually Floyd beat him with one hand.
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Originally posted by The_Bringer View PostI'm an American Hatton fan and this is just gay. I felt sorry for him and still do for losing, but fighters lose fights. If you don't want to risk it then don't fight anybody you can't beat. You're a fighter for ****'s sake, get back out there and do what you do best, beat somebody's ass.
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Originally posted by squealpiggy View PostNaz was favourite, expected to knock Barrera to pieces and was soundly outboxed from start to end. He was considered to be unbeatable and was taken apart. It remains to be seen which loss was more devastating, because we don't know how Hatton will respond. But Naz was completely shattered by the loss, I think Hatton has a good chance of coming back stronger. There's too many factors on his side (he moved up in weight, foguht in his opponent's hometown, had hometown referees and judges, was a massive underdog, was largely expected to lose). Hamed was in a situation where he couldn't lose and he was soundly beaten.
But, if Floyd weighed under 150, it's really a Junior Welter fight since all Junior Welters/140 pound fighters, come in at 147+ by fight time, including Hatton.
Plus, have we forgotten Floyd started at 130, and unlike Oscar, he wasn't on a **** diet to make the weight.
So why was it at 147 you may ask? (1) Floyd is the Champion at 147 (2) It sounds better, "Welter Weight Champion" (3) it's part of one, Floyd calls the shots (4) You don't have to drain yourself to get to 140 so you are basically coming in at whatever weight you would have been coming in by fight time except, no draining. That is of course if Floyd was at 149 for this fight and not 159.
I recall Ricky's own people saying Floyd wasn't that big, but they didn't see how strong he was.
For the ref, it could have been better, like letting the fighters ref themselves a bit more, but Cortez didn't want another Hatton vs. Tszyu illegal wrestling match so he showed who the "Pack Leader" was early on, then eased up.
Hopefully Hatton isn't a mess after this loss and comes back strong. It's bad seeing fighters ruined by a loss. Fighting is a hard sport/business, no question.Last edited by Benny Leonard; 12-21-2007, 09:19 AM.
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Originally posted by squealpiggy View PostThis was nothing like the Lacy fight. Lacy was beaten like a red-headed stepchild from the first round. He literally had no success at any point with anything he did and this was the favourite for the fight. With Hatton there were a number of mitigating circumstances that give him a reason to keep on believing in himself. He knows he had success early on, he knows he lost focus and there's a marked change in his behaviour after he was deducted a point in what he saw as unfair circumstances.
As I've said previously some people are in the process of rewriting history and marking the fight as wholly one sided, when it clearly wasn't. At no point was Floyd truly dominant until the seventh round, and he didn't seriously affect Hatton apart from in the eighth and the tenth. He didn't "break Hatton down physically and mentally", Hatton got angry and got tagged with many clean counters as a result.
If Hatton had stuck to his gameplan although it may not have led to victory, it would certainly have been a contentious decision and I think Ricky knows that better than anyone.
For the deduction of a point, well, what do you expect when you are warned and then you go and shove a fighter through the ropes and then proceed to hit him on the back of the head, a dangerous section of the skull.
The only reason it looked close was because Hatton was on Floyd like a trailer-park wife-beater, which is why Floyd started to shove Hatton off with his elbow/forearm. If you also notice Floyd was landing on the inside which also helped wear down Rick. When there was even the slightest distance, Floyd was taking him apart.
Floyd had control of the fight, but true, the "domination" happened later on when Floyd, as usual since he has resorted to giving the early rounds up by being patient, waited until he sensed when to go.Last edited by Benny Leonard; 12-21-2007, 09:30 AM.
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