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    Originally posted by audibleone View Post
    Yet boxing is no longer about accomplishments but rather how much $$ you can bring to the table is that not right? Is that not how Floyd is choosing his opponents? Gone are the days were Olympians where celebrated athletes. Gone are the days when the public paid to see a Boxer fight because he was actually good and worth seeing. I don't think anyone from this generation will ever compare to Floyd so making such an obvious comparison, as you have is pretty weak. Floyd is THIS generation's prodigy. But like every prodigy, he has competition that he needs to beat to continue being considered what he is today. I'm waiting for that day.
    Based on pure facts, who is a better Boxer. Floyd Mayweather or Miguel Cotto?

    Who has more skills and ability?

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    • Aren't we all?

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        Originally posted by T-97 View Post
        Based on pure facts, who is a better Boxer. Floyd Mayweather or Miguel Cotto?

        Who has more skills and ability?
        I think Cotto has more skills and abilities in areas that Floyd doesnt and Floyd has more skills and ability in areas that Cotto doesnt, Skill is not just the art of hit and dont get hit, it takes skill to sit in the pocket and trade and test your will against another mans will some fighters are better at doing that than others, while some fighters like Floyd can box your ****ing ears off make you miss constantly make you pay and drive you up the ****ing wall.

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          Originally posted by Horus View Post
          This is Boxing ....Not Brawling.....

          No, this is Boxing and brawling is part of that. This sport wouldn't be what it is today without fighters like Ali, Leonard, Robinson who did both. I'm not understanding why it is so black and white with you. I'm not trying to disrespect you, but you seem intent on trying to convince others that you are either a brawler or a boxer and fighters like Joel Casamayor, Marco Antonio Barrera, Rafael Marquez would disagree with you.

          Judging by the length of you're initial post, your willingness to disregard the great boxer/punchers of the past and current, it seems like your goal is to mislead and manipulate the history of the sport of Boxing just to fit your personal belief and agenda just because the majority of people and Boxing fans aren't too keen on Floyd's fighting style.

          The funny aspect of this is, all you have to do is ask these people when Floyd ran? Did Floyd run from Corrales when he was sprawled on the canvas from a Floyd straight? Did he run against Oscar even though Floyd was against the ropes and Oscar couldn't land a goddamed thing? How exactly was Floyd running when his left hook sent Hatton to the corner?

          These are all valid points that you could be making instead of cheapening the history and very thing that made Boxing the sport it is today by posting one sided propaganda.

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            Originally posted by audibleone View Post
            No, this is Boxing and brawling is part of that. This sport wouldn't be what it is today without fighters like Ali, Leonard, Robinson who did both. I'm not understanding why it is so black and white with you. I'm not trying to disrespect you, but you seem intent on trying to convince others that you are either a brawler or a boxer and fighters like Joel Casamayor, Marco Antonio Barrera, Rafael Marquez would disagree with you.

            Judging by the length of you're initial post, your willingness to disregard the great boxer/punchers of the past and current, it seems like your goal is to mislead and manipulate the history of the sport of Boxing just to fit your personal belief and agenda just because the majority of people and Boxing fans aren't too keen on Floyd's fighting style.

            The funny aspect of this is, all you have to do is ask these people when Floyd ran? Did Floyd run from Corrales when he was sprawled on the canvas from a Floyd straight? Did he run against Oscar even though Floyd was against the ropes and Oscar couldn't land a goddamed thing? How exactly was Floyd running when his left hook sent Hatton to the corner?

            These are all valid points that you could be making instead of cheapening the history and very thing that made Boxing the sport it is today by posting one sided propaganda.
            I respect brawlers and punchers. Some of my favourite fighters are. But if you honestly look at history, the fighters that are remembered as the best Generally are boxers not brawlers.

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              Originally posted by 2501 View Post
              And as far as the thread, there can always be a balance of defense and offensive initiative. You dont have to be ****ing boring the whole fight, but you dont have to be wreckless either.
              SRL i miss that guy

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                Originally posted by T-97 View Post
                I respect brawlers and punchers. Some of my favourite fighters are. But if you honestly look at history, the fighters that are remembered as the best Generally are boxers not brawlers.
                Holyfield, Fraizer, Marciano, Hagler, those are not exactly boxers son!!!

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                  If pro boxing was primarily about points scored/punches landed, then the fighters would wear headgear. Period. Pro boxing is a culmination of the olympic sport of amateur boxing and fighting. The lines have become unfortunately vague between pro and amateur boxing today because the judges reward running. Mayweather would be a 2 loss fighter if they did not.

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                    Originally posted by T-97 View Post
                    I respect brawlers and punchers. Some of my favourite fighters are. But if you honestly look at history, the fighters that are remembered as the best Generally are boxers not brawlers.
                    Marciano, Robinson, Dempsey, Johnson, Louis, Duran, Lamotta, Ketchel, Chavez, Armstrong...........need I go on? The majority of the fighters I listed certainly had boxing ability, but when one remembers the past, images of Robinson pummeling his opponents against the ropes appear, flashes of the bloody wars Chavez engaged in appear, images of Lousis's opponents lying almost lifeless because of the hell he put them through appear. When Burt Sugar has his little segments on espn about fighters of the old, seldom do you see footage of them being slick or backpeddling, but rather footage of them engaging against their toughest opponents of course unless its Willie Pep .

                    Of course, you will read this and take it as me saying that "Boxers" are spineless not willing to man up. That is far from what I'm saying, but nostalgia doesn't favor the cautious, only the fierce.

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                      Originally posted by x3_bazooka_x3 View Post
                      Holyfield, Fraizer, Marciano, Hagler, those are not exactly boxers son!!!
                      Originally posted by T-97 View Post
                      I respect brawlers and punchers. Some of my favourite fighters are. But if you honestly look at history, the fighters that are remembered as the best Generally are boxers not brawlers.
                      I know, thats why i put the word generally in red. To point out i know that some ATGs are brawlers but its my opinion that most of the best are boxers. No all.

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