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    #51
    Sonof doesn't debate without ad hominem. He thinks he's educated, but he isn't. You can't shadowbox in front of a pro. And I'm the mother****ing house pro in this *****.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Motofan View Post
      You wont have to worry about this in a few decades. Its the same reason that there wont be any real redheads in 50 years. The races are mixing so much now that there wont be a full on white or black athlete. Just mixes of several. Tiger Wood is more Asian then black, he said so himself. If you have to call him something call him asian. His words. So are you assuming that the smaller amount of him that is black made him a great golfer? Or are Asians just the best golfers? You see how this is flawed logic? I have heard the "Well they bred the strongest ****** together so they made the black people stronger." This may have been true, with there have been enough generations now away from it to where it is no longer a valid argument. If a black person comes from a family of athletic people that you can make the argument, but if he comes from a family that sits on the couch and watches tv, the whole "bred from the strong" argument goes out the window. Same thing for any race. White people arent less athletic or more powerfull then any other race. If you break it down this is just a ****** argument. Look at it this way, sports can be a way out of a bad situation or poverty. This effects some races more then others. Its just a fact. If you look at basketball or boxing as a way out of the ****** or a bad area, then you are driven more to succeed. If you are well off and go to nice schools and dont rely so much on athletics to make it in the world then you arent focused on becoming the next great sports star. This is the main reason why black athletes dominate basketball and many other sports is because it is a way to pay for school and a future. Look at UFC, mostly white athletes. Not because they are better at it, but because they are into it more. Same goes for every other race and sport you break down. Just blindly saying "Black people are better at this, or white people are better at this" isnt reality.
      tiger woods father is half black . i doubt woods inherited his golfing gift from his mother seen as women are vastly inferior athletes to men .

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        #53
        No, and honestly don't even start it, this is probably one of the lamest and most inane stereotypes that is out there and it hurts the black man much more then it hurts the white man.


        I mean there were so many studies identifying that your athleticism has nothing to do with your race you only need to dig it up.

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          #54
          Originally posted by gavinz1970 View Post
          When you cross two breeds of sheep or cattle, you often get what's called a "hybrid vigour" ,smart guy.
          Various breeds of sheep and cattle are different sub-species', unlike humans you ******!

          And as far as the rest of your post, it was entirely to biggoted and racist to answer to.
          Racist?

          From Time International:

          the most common (public) explanation for this phenomenon is that blacks are socialized to excel at these events. Really? You mean to say that out of a country of approximately 260 million, where blacks make up only 12% of the population, in which there are 5-6 times more whites than blacks, that there are no white guys who excel at these activities? Furthermore, you never see an Asian (American or otherwise) competing in the higher echelon of these sports. Nor do you see any Hispanics or Latinos in these events. Granted, socialization may explain, in part, the apparent dominance of blacks in football or basketball, but this explanation is sorely inadequate when it comes to running.

          Everyone can run, and it doesn't matter whether you are in China, Russia, or the US You don't need any special equipment and it doesn't require any specialized skills. Because of the ubiquity of running, one would expect somewhat proportional representation among all races or groups of people in world class competition (e.g., Olympics). That, of course, is based on the premise that all races have equal capacities for running fast. Yet, the reality is that one group, blacks, win nearly every sprint race. Whites will on occasion win (Valeri Borzov of the former Soviet Union won the 100m and 200m dash at the 1972 Olympics). However, Asians will, in our humble opinion, never be competitive with black Americans in world class sprinting. The idea that blacks are socialized to excel in sprints is disputable in that many of these black athletes come from countries other than the United States. Are blacks from the United Kingdom, the Caribbean, and West Africa also "socialized" to run fast?


          In other sports we can talk of access, finances and socialization. Running is something universal and simple across the world. There are far, far more white sprinters in the USA than black ones in HS track.....the black ones of west african ancestry rise to the top of american sprinting invariably and have all the sprint records despite blacks being only 12-13% of the population.

          39 years ago jim hines broke the 10 second barrier.......someone explain how in all those yaers later ONLY BLACK MALES OF WEST AFRICAN ANCESTRY have been able to duplicate that feat. Even with all kinds of drugs being used in the sport still only those males of west african ancestry have done it.

          For 20 years East Germany failed to produce a single sub-10-sec. runner despite handpicking its most athletic children, nurturing them with the best coaching and pumping them with steroids.
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          Last edited by sonofisis; 12-01-2007, 06:20 PM.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Ironside View Post
            Are you implying that because black people are poor, they don't have the right opportunities to make it big in tennis, and if they did, they would dominate the tennis world?
            I am not implying that. I am abjectly stating that.

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              #56
              How is it racism? It's the truth. Generally, black people are more athletically gifted than white people, simply due to genetics.

              Just how, Generally, white people are smarter, or at least score higher on IQ tests, than black people.
              Sorry, but I find that racist. How is NOT racist to say that blacks are less intelligent? These race IQ tests have historically been FILLED with holes. Any respectable scientific source will tell otherwise.

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                #57
                Originally posted by catskills23 View Post
                If you look at the most atheltically gifted boxers such as tyson,ali,roy jones,sugar ray robinson etc. The great sprinters carl lewis,ben jonson . The greatest golfer of all time tiger woods. The greatest basketball players were michael jordan and magic jonson . Are they superior athletes?.
                Originally posted by deliveryman View Post
                How is it racism? It's the truth. Generally, black people are more athletically gifted than white people, simply due to genetics.

                Just how, Generally, white people are smarter, or at least score higher on IQ tests, than black people.

                you are a racist too.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by mt102879 View Post
                  Sorry, but I find that racist. How is NOT racist to say that blacks are less intelligent? These race IQ tests have historically been FILLED with holes. Any respectable scientific source will tell otherwise.
                  Not so, not so. Though there's pressure on researchers, at the moment, not to pursue studies that will result in telling us what we all know.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Motofan View Post
                    You wont have to worry about this in a few decades. Its the same reason that there wont be any real redheads in 50 years. The races are mixing so much now that there wont be a full on white or black athlete. Just mixes of several. Tiger Wood is more Asian then black, he said so himself. If you have to call him something call him asian. His words. So are you assuming that the smaller amount of him that is black made him a great golfer? Or are Asians just the best golfers? You see how this is flawed logic? I have heard the "Well they bred the strongest ****** together so they made the black people stronger." This may have been true, with there have been enough generations now away from it to where it is no longer a valid argument. If a black person comes from a family of athletic people that you can make the argument, but if he comes from a family that sits on the couch and watches tv, the whole "bred from the strong" argument goes out the window. Same thing for any race. White people arent less athletic or more powerfull then any other race. If you break it down this is just a ****** argument. Look at it this way, sports can be a way out of a bad situation or poverty. This effects some races more then others. Its just a fact. If you look at basketball or boxing as a way out of the ****** or a bad area, then you are driven more to succeed. If you are well off and go to nice schools and dont rely so much on athletics to make it in the world then you arent focused on becoming the next great sports star. This is the main reason why black athletes dominate basketball and many other sports is because it is a way to pay for school and a future. Look at UFC, mostly white athletes. Not because they are better at it, but because they are into it more. Same goes for every other race and sport you break down. Just blindly saying "Black people are better at this, or white people are better at this" isnt reality.
                    Originally posted by sonofisis View Post
                    Various breeds of sheep and cattle are two different sub-species', unlike humans you ******!



                    Racist?

                    From Time International:

                    the most common (public) explanation for this phenomenon is that blacks are socialized to excel at these events. Really? You mean to say that out of a country of approximately 260 million, where blacks make up only 12% of the population, in which there are 5-6 times more whites than blacks, that there are no white guys who excel at these activities? Furthermore, you never see an Asian (American or otherwise) competing in the higher echelon of these sports. Nor do you see any Hispanics or Latinos in these events. Granted, socialization may explain, in part, the apparent dominance of blacks in football or basketball, but this explanation is sorely inadequate when it comes to running.

                    Everyone can run, and it doesn't matter whether you are in China, Russia, or the US You don't need any special equipment and it doesn't require any specialized skills. Because of the ubiquity of running, one would expect somewhat proportional representation among all races or groups of people in world class competition (e.g., Olympics). That, of course, is based on the premise that all races have equal capacities for running fast. Yet, the reality is that one group, blacks, win nearly every sprint race. Whites will on occasion win (Valeri Borzov of the former Soviet Union won the 100m and 200m dash at the 1972 Olympics). However, Asians will, in our humble opinion, never be competitive with black Americans in world class sprinting. The idea that blacks are socialized to excel in sprints is disputable in that many of these black athletes come from countries other than the United States. Are blacks from the United Kingdom, the Caribbean, and West Africa also "socialized" to run fast?


                    In other sports we can talk of access, finances and socialization. Running is something universal and simple across the world. There are far, far more white sprinters in the USA than black ones in HS track.....the black ones of west african ancestry rise to the top of american sprinting invariably and have all the sprint records despite blacks being only 12-13% of the population.

                    39 years ago jim hines broke the 10 second barrier.......someone explain how in all those yaers later ONLY BLACK MALES OF WEST AFRICAN ANCESTRY have been able to duplicate that feat. Even with all kinds of drugs being used in the sport still only those males of west african ancestry have done it.

                    For 20 years East Germany failed to produce a single sub-10-sec. runner despite handpicking its most athletic children, nurturing them with the best coaching and pumping them with steroids.
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                    have you ever seen any good black swimmers, tennis player or gymnasts?.

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                      #60
                      And to think that some of these people claimed that they went to college, there is enough ignorance here to start a new Chicago 1875.

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