proof mayweather fought only bums after castillo

[Ray*]

Hatton is merely a vessle through which national pride flows.

Agreed, I like Hatton but i hate the double standards that goes on here.

[Easton Assassin]

Sosa was a very solid fighter and top ranked contender. He was Dominican Republic lightweight champion and hadn't lost since he'd fought Paul Spadafora, who is still undefeated. Since then, his only other loss was to another undefeated fighter in Miguel Cotto. He only lost to A-level fighters and was a formidable contender for Mayweather at light weight..



Because he had some kind of brain trauma and HAD to retire. The guy was 31-1 with 30 KOs when he faced Mayweather and had previously won a few regional titles at feather weight and super feather weight before he built his resume in order to put himself in a position to challenge Floyd. After that, he lost to fellow south African prospect, and current IBO welterweight champ, Isaac Hlatswayo, who is 27-1 and received his only loss from Kendall Holt. beating others such as Nate Campbell and other notable contenders.






Actually, this was Mayweather's first fight at 140 and it was against the former WBO champ who'd just lost to Zab Judah. It was a good test against a very good opponent who's only lost to A-level fighters. These last few mishaps simply mark the end of his career, but says nothing about his talent level. After the beatings from Zab, Mayweather and Cotto, I wouldn't expect anything differently now.



Brussels was part of Miguel Cotto's training camp and in preparation for the fight, Cotto actually gave Brussels a good chance to win.

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He was former WBO Latino light welter weight champ and hasn't lost since Mayweather, and is current WBO NABO light welterweight champ. Not an A-level opponent, but not a bum either since he isn't losing to bums.



Gatti indeed did have a great streak of wins against good competition leading up to the Mayweather bout, which earned him the match. Gatti has never lost to bums.

Notable losses before Mayweather come from:

Angel Manfredy
Ivan Robinson
Oscar De La Hoya
Micky Ward

Of course, the worst opponent being Micky Ward, which says a lot about his heart, and we know how those fights went.

Gomez and Baldy caught Gatti at the tail end of his career. He'd taken the most brutal beating of his career from Mayweather and was already getting old. After the Floyd fight, there was nothing left except for the 11th rd TKO against Damgard.



Mitchell wasn't old and washed up, he was just in a position where he was starting to now get backed into a corner by so many fighters that were A-level and apparently better than him. Before Mayweather, his only losses were to Stevie and Leavander Johnson and Kosta Tszyu. He was WBA light welter weight champ and WBO interim champ and actually accomplished more at 140 than Mayweather. He was a very good stepping stone to get to the WW crown, for Mayweather's first fight at WW.



Judah is no where near overrated, his talent and skill is apparent. How in the hell did he get lucky by beating Spinks when both matches were dead even? Spinks just got clocked in the second one, which was one of Zab's greatest performances. Before that, he was IBF jr. welter weight champ who'd defended his title several times before losing to Tszyu, to pop right back up, beat Corley for the WBO and then move up in weight and win the undisputed crown. No flukes involved whatsoever, he kept going after belts and got them through shear skill and determination.

Yes, he slacked against Baldomir but it isn't like he got ktfo. Styles make fights and the former undisputed champ was still a threat to Mayweather as seen in the first 4 rounds. Zab was a very good opponent and is still a decent one.



Baldomir was 19-0-2 leading up to the Mayweather fight and hadn't lost in 8 years! He was WBC International welterweight champ and natural mandatory for Judah's crown, in which he capitalized on. He beat some good prospects and undefeated fighters like Frank Olsen and even Joshua Clottey, whom he frustrated into head butting, hence winning by DQ. He drew with an undefeated Jose Luis Cruz and beat the heavily favored up and coming prospect, Miguel Angel Rodriguez to earn the fight with Judah. After that, beating both Judah and Gatti. Baldomir was a good champ and I don't care what anyone says. Pointing at his losses are futile since they don't tell us much more than Baldo having slacked early in his career.



DLH was an excellent win. Calling him a bum only makes you that much more ignore worthy. he's only 4 years older than Floyd with 4 more fights under his belt. He was still in great shape, the best he's been in in a while and his last win was a great performance. There was no indication at all that he was faded. No one can point out anything material which would allude to this, which is why people who make this claim make it based on circular reasoning, but can't offer evidence of any signs. He was fast, jab was great, strong, reflexes were great, he looked really good in that fight actually, so this is a ****** excuse. Floyd himself doesn't fight as often as he used to either, so that's immaterial.


In summary, you're just a hater. Not one of these people are "bums", as we define it in American usage.

Jesus thats the longest list of excuses i have ever heard!

[Sweet Pea 50]

Thats because most of this people have a low knowledge of boxing..They're not here to really discuss boxing, They expect the guy to fight everybody even when logically most them are not available, Like now the man has a fight right in front of him but they're already talking about him ducking Cotto and Mosley...The same Mosley that turn the fight down twice..Once because of a toothache (Is he ducking Mayweather becauuse of that)..Second reason was i "want to take the year off to be with my family", Cotto doesnt say alot because he is being control by Arum..He fights whoever arum tells him to fight.

Good post.
I do think that after Mayweather dispatches Hatton, Cotto will be next. Spring or summer in 08. Cotto has a a big name under his belt, with his win over Shane.
The money should be there. Make it happen boxing gods.

[Amaro]

i am tired of seeing the maywaether fans say he fought some good opponents after castillo so now i have to show the facts that all the real boxing fans know

sosa: his last 5 opponents before mayweather had a record of 64-43-6. 2 of those opponents had never even won a fighter in there careers. after the mayweather fight he went back to fighting bums where he belongs.

ndou: if he was a good fighter why did he lost his next fight after mayweather then retire???

corley: mayweather fought this guy coming off a loss. since mayweather he has lost 4 of 7 fights and he lost to 2 journeyman. this guy is total garbage. having a belt in your career dont make yo ua good fighter.

bruseles: fought nothing but bums and old fighters his whole career.

gatti: has lost to bums his whole career. he had a good win streak by handpicking opponents until he had to fight mayweather. since mayweather he was knocked out by 2 lighting hitting punchers and retired.

mitchell: decent fighter who was old and washed up when mayweather fought him. some say it was a warm up fight for 147 but why are you fighting a guy who fights at 140 for a tune up at 147??? this was really just another case of mayweather handpicking easy opponents. if you get knocked out by mayweather at 147 you seriously are a no chinned bum.

judah: another overrated bum. got lucky to win the 147 belt and defended against nothing but bums like pineda martell and rivera. judah was coming off a loss when he lost to one of the bums he usually defends his belt against in baldomir. judah is very overrated because he has always lost to any good fighter he fought and he has lost and struggled with bums his whole career.

baldomir: he got lucky against judah but he is a total bum. look at the kind of bums judah was defending against and baldomir fit in perfectly. he was old and slow. he just got lucky one night. he has fought nothing but bums so now when he steps up to real competition he gets destroyed just like forrest schooled him for 12 rounds. this guy is a joke.

dlh: past his prime promoter who had a year layoff and hadnt beat anybody good since vargas in 2002. a win over dlh would have meant something maybe 5 years earlier.

Dude you have some great points, all credit to you, but can you honestly sit there and name a couple fighters that are still active that has fought better competition than mayweather?

we can bit by bit pick out fights of fighters you dislike, but in the end of the day it's about the business more so than anything else and I don't think anyone can deny that mayweather is the man.

[Sweet Pea 50]

Agreed, I like Hatton but i hate the double standards that goes on here.

Your not the only one. I think that Hatton is good people.
But if your smart, and actually follow the fight game, Mayweather is going to win this.
And it won't even be close.

[VIVA MEXICO!!!]

Dude you have some great points, all credit to you, but can you honestly sit there and name a couple fighters that are still active that has fought better competition than mayweather?

we can bit by bit pick out fights of fighters you dislike, but in the end of the day it's about the business more so than anything else and I don't think anyone can deny that mayweather is the man.

we dont need businessman in boxing if all they do is duck the best fighters.

i am glad to see no one can dispute the facts i have given the boxing scene.

[Jim Jeffries]

Dude you have some great points, all credit to you, but can you honestly sit there and name a couple fighters that are still active that has fought better competition than mayweather?

we can bit by bit pick out fights of fighters you dislike, but in the end of the day it's about the business more so than anything else and I don't think anyone can deny that mayweather is the man.

Name ONE great fighter at the top of his game that Mayweather has fought.

[Wiley Hyena]

So your basing your argument on Floyd not fighting a guy who just fought the Light Heavyweight champ and Antonio "step up to lose" Margarito? Add Mosley to the list of guys that Floyd has publically called out (sorry I left him off the first time).
Frietas, Casa, Mosley, Tszyu, and Hamed were all mentioned by Floyd as opponents he'd like to fight at one point or another throughout his career. What were their resposes?

Tszyu said bring it on, but Floyd passed him up.....that's what happened you nutlicker.

[ThaHorseman]

Tszyu said bring it on, but Floyd passed him up.....that's what happened you nutlicker.

Actually, Tszyu showed his true worth by quiting on his stool against a guy Mayweather is about to stomp. What a champ.

[SkillspayBills]

Floyd's resume>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Margarito's resume.