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Paul Williams will destroy Cintron
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Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View Post[/U][/B]
Was he prepared for Margarito to keep coming even when he landed his big bombs? thats the thing with Kermit, he breaks down mentally when hes facing a top tough game fighter. thats why i know Williams will beat him. Once he finds out that Williams will be there even when he lands his bombs, it will only be a matter of time until williams get him to either quit (the way he did with Margarito) or just get knocked out. and why do people keep bringing up his hand? again, a lot of fighters sill look impressive when they break thier hand. do you ever see Calzaghe, Gatti, Ward, Wlad, or Baldimer even complain about a broken hand? just like Matt said, he is soft.
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Originally posted by gerardofpr View PostYou're assuming Williams will walk through Cintron's shots the way Feliciano did. I don't think he will. Let me let you in a little secret, Cintron is a one handed puncher and his strong hand isn't his left, against a tall, lanky lefty who's constantly open for it, its a different story. You doubt his hand got hurt? That hand was operated on and he didn't throw his money punch at all after the 2nd or so.Last edited by slicksouthpaw16; 11-24-2007, 07:11 AM.
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on the real yo some of you need to realize what y'all saying, y'all make it seem like 1 loss means he's ALWAYS going to crumble, it happened once but what you guys fail to realizeis that Margarito threw punches but he didn't KO him, Kermit quit and was therefore TKO'ed, nothing landed to blow him away, he felt the kind of adversity he never felt before and he crumbled, he didn't have the skills to mount any kind of comeback so he fell back, NOW he does, he learned from that loss and since then got a new trainer whom he listens to, uses his jab and reach more and overall is MORE precise with his punches..
Sharmba ****ing Mitchell even hit Williams with a few good ones it's just Sharmba ain't exactly Tyson, certainly isn't Kermit in the power department and he couldn't phase Williams, Margarito got thrown off early he played his position and when he finally stepped up it was too late, that WONT be the case with Kermit, Williams throws a whole bunch of lower class punches, he really wont phase Cintron, he is TOO willing to fight inside and thats a fight Kermit wins, his only chances is from punching on the outside and Kermit's jab is gonna **** that ALL up, I got nothing but love for Paul but he wont beat Kermit, a 10th round stoppage from a 5+ punch combination with a broken hand against a SOLID chin proved it to me.. 100
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Originally posted by WLAD OWNS View PostI originally thought Cintron might have a decent chance against Williams, but after seeing that unimpressive performance I am not giving him any chance when he fights Williams. I can see Williams dominating and winning by late KO/TKO, Cintron is a paper champ.
You add Cintrons power to the fact Margarito almost tipped Williams ass over like a potential christmas tree late in the fight....I can't imagine how you cant give Cintron a chance against Williams.
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Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View PostIsnt Feliciano the fighter thats coming up from junior welterweight? why Couldn't Williams take his shots? what fights convince you that he can't? i have been following Williams for all of his televised fights and i have not seen him seriously hurt once. yes hes been stunned but who have not? and on *********.com, they said that his hand MIGHT be broke, its not even confirmed that it is. and what will Williams do that Margarito have not? they both are tall tough game fighters with a high work rate and good chins. I actually see the same result but Williams does not hit as hard as Margarito IMO, so i think that Williams either wins a UD, or late stoppage.
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Some of you are under estimating Jesse Felicianos chin and heart and will.
Jesse Felicaiano has an iron chin, he took some of the cleanest shots i have ever seen a fighter take and he took more then a couple and still keep coming forward. Unphazed.
You can't just say Cintron has no power, or that he looked ****ty because Felicaino came to fight and came to win.
Anybody who down plays Felicainos peformance and chin is an ignorant person.
Cintron v. Williams will still be a good fight and I still got Cintron winning the fight.
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Originally posted by gerardofpr View PostAre you saying that because he once fought at Jr WW, he's supposed to have a weaker chin? I don't understand your argument. Maybe he feels stronger and more comfortable at WW? Look at Cotto. I saw Williams rocked hard by a faded Matthyse and Sharmba who's not a puncher. Williams work rate could give anyone trouble, not just Cintron. You can not compare the outcome of Margarito fights in both fighters, triangle logic doesn't go in boxing. Whether the hand is actually broken or not remains to be seen, my point is, he's a one handed fighter and quit throwing his strong hand. You're right about Williams not hitting as hard as Margarito, he has better work rate thou. I don't think Williams will walk through Cintron's shots the way Feliciano did.
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Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View PostI don't know much about Feliciano but on some boxing show, these dude's mentioned that he was knocked out in the first round by Arnoutis. i think it was even lower than JR WW if im not mistaken. and i never heard about Feliciano having trouble making weight so that can go out the window. he looked that good because of what Cintron alowed him to do. its all Cintrons fault and no one can make an excuse. even before this fight, everyone was saying that Cintron should blow this man out. Thats looks bad for Cintron. you are just trying to raise Cintron's stock again by making it seem that Feliciano is some tough fighter that is unstoppable. if thats the case, then tell me why this is the best Feliciano has ever looked? This fight has for sure raised a lot of eye brows about Cintron. and if he can't fight with a sore hand ( the hand it was not even broken, check *********.com) then he is just soft and should just pick and choose opponents that he think he can beat. Williams is already battle tested. he will definatley beat Kermit. and im not even sure if Kermit can compete with the elite period. Willams TKO 11 Cintron
Why would I convince you or try to make Cintron's stock go up when you don't know Feliciano? How about Paul's performance against Santos Pakau who was coming off a KO and "coming up in weight" yet gave Paul a tough one?
A puncher always has trouble against an iron chin guy who keeps pressuring him with non stop punches of his own. Not allowing Feliciano to do that with one hand (your strong hand) is a bit hard, dont you think?
Williams is already battle tested? You need to understand triangle logic does not apply to boxing. Williams might have had a helluva fight against Margarito who ran over Cintron, does that mean Williams would do the same? Absolutely not. Williams had a hard time KOing a dead after three Matthyse, Cintron blasted him in 2 almost 1, does this mean Cintron will do the same to Williams? NO. Again, you're assuming Williams will walk through Cintron's shots the way Feliciano did, its not the case. Williams is an easier fight for Cintron than Felciano is, Williams keeps his distance and his chin isn't Feliciano's. As a matter of fact, I pick Feliciano to beat Williams if they ever fought.
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