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Originally posted by Mozza View PostI can pick random names for Calzaghe's career history and try and pass them off as great fighters but I will only look as foolish as you. Chavez and Manfreddy - give me a break. I'm surprised you haven't thrown Baldomir and Gatti on the list for good measure.
Familiarize yourself with the sport.
I realize the the only fighters you may recognize are guys from The Contender. Because those are the guys that Joey fights.
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Originally posted by PIPBoy 2000 View PostSeriously, if you did not think that that was a special performance you are out of your mind. Make no mistake, Kessler is an excellent fighter and beating him in that kind of a way is special.
....This is one of the reasons that I think Dios is just a piss taking alt perhaps. He can't possibly believe the bull**** he spews and it must be all in fun right?? Trying to get a rise and nothing more.
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The biggest fights of all time have taken place here. Its where the money is at. Non American vs Non American fights take place here. It's not about loyalty. It's just results speak for itself. Like you said, Hatton gets exposure over here. Therefore the best names around the world know where to find him.
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I really have trouble understanding the reasoning behind deminishing the OBVIOUS skills a fighter displays in the ring by criticizing his record. If Pernell Whitaker never destroyed Chavez, never fought McGirt, never humiliated Azumah Nelson, and never put on a clinic against Jose Louis Ramirez, he would STILL be Pernell Whitaker. He would STILL be one of the greatest defensive fighters ever, and he would STILL be an ATG fight.
The same goes for Mikkel Kessler. It DOESNT matter who he has fought, he has skills. Watch his fights, they are there for everyone to see. You don't need to pick apart his record and why he hasn't fought anyone. 70% of you had not even heard of Kessler before talks about Calzaghe came about. Being good, and unknown is not exactly a recipe to getting the big name fight.
Same goes for Calzaghe. If Roy Jones anounced he was fighting Calzaghe back when he was at 168, most of you would have trashed Roy Jones for fighting an over protected paper champion (he wasn't even champ yet). Yet the same people are today criticizing Calzaghe for not having the exposure or the name to Make the big fights feasible earlier in his career.
James Toney, the only fighter that would realistically take a fight against Calzaghe back when Calzaghe was an up and coming champion was fighting at Cruiserweight at the time Calzaghe won his title. CRUISERWEIGHT.
Why didn't he fight with Bernard? Bernard was as big a Nobody as Calzaghe was in 1997. The man was a 3-1 underdog against a Felix Trinidad in 2001, his first true mainstream exposure. He was perfectly happy defending his alphabet belt and calling out Roy Jones.
Do you know how long Roy Jones Stayed at 168? Two fights... in 1996, a year before the beginning of Calzaghes 1997 title reign. If you try to tell me Calzaghe had a chance in hell of getting a fight with Roy Jones, Id refer you to a doctor.
Calzaghe is a GREAT fighter, who until recently, has not had the name to get big fights with big name fighters, thats it. He wasn't over protected, he wasn't ducking fighters, he was simply lacking in opportunities. Frank Warren or the general American opinion of British boxing didn't help matters either.
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Originally posted by PBDS View Post....This is one of the reasons that I think Dios is just a piss taking alt perhaps. He can't possibly believe the bull**** he spews and it must be all in fun right?? Trying to get a rise and nothing more.
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Originally posted by Mozza View PostCalzaghe has not had as many big fights as he should have but this is not his fault. Hatton went to America for exposure not to fight the best. There is no overwhelming reason for fights to take place in America and the accusation that British or European fighters stay at home too often can just as easily be levelled at American's but oddly enough you don't hear it very often.
I think Mayweather will win.
the reason why americans dont get ripped for leaving america is because our demographics are so different, i mentioned in my previous post that hopkins fought tito trinidad in new york with a huge puerto rico contingent in his favor and knocked him out. our guys are seperated by states and the demographic changes from state to state, remember mayweather in atlantic city? julio cesar chavez in san antonio texas against whitaker? our demographics are far more diverse, a fighter from the west coast gets no love in the east, you see what im saying? either way joe fighting at home takes nothing away from how great he is, i just wish hed leave
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Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO View PostI think that Calzaghe fought a good fight. Great stamina. Kept the pressure on and broke down Kessler.
I had it 8-4 CalSlappy.
But I do not see Joe as being a special fighter.
he's top 3 lb4lb! I'm 7,000 points richer because of Calslappy!
Calslappy style of boxing:
Lead with your head and SLAP SLAP SLAP and more SLAP...
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