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Which Heavyweight had the single hardest punch
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Originally posted by DWiens421 View PostWhy I voted for Foreman... I was just showing everyone (that wasn't directed at you) that The Ring picked Louis.
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Originally posted by hurricane72 View PostI haven't voted yet on my own thread. But Joe Louis had some amazing knockouts in his title reign. For his size and the era he fought in he was simply awesome. Fighters did 360 degrees,fell like a tree or just shook violently when hit by Joe. As I said earlier it's not easy and you have to think like you would in a P4P listing because Heavyweights have got so much bigger.
Primo Carnera is like Rid**** Bowe size, and he was the only one way back then to be that big.
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Originally posted by Panamaniac View PostThe name of Earnie Shavers figures prominently in every discussion of hard punchers in the heavyweight division. I suspect that many who declare him the hardest puncher ever, do so for the sole purpose of seeming cool, hip and knowledgeable. If he was as hard a puncher as so many purport him to to be, he must have been one lousy fighter. Otherwise, how do you explain a puncher of his caliber never having won a championship?
I must cop to extreme prejudice against non-champions. To put this in perspective: I have more respect for John Ruiz (a lousy fighter) than I do for Earnie Shavers (a great puncher). In my ****-retentive-narrow-minded point of view, a great puncher who has never won a championship is akin to a toothless pitbull - all bark and no bite.
also i think he beat ali on the cards, albeit a shot ali.
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Wlad belongs in that list.
He hits harder than, freaking 1890s Jeffries, cmon man.
He hits harder than Dempsey, Louis, Lewis, Ron Lyle, Rocky Marciano and that's only because of his size and speed. If you were to put some kind of measuring system that shows how much power you have, surely Wlad would be the most powerful one. This is simple physics. The only ones I can see that match up Wlad's power are, Tua, Tyson,(and Tyson is a special case) Foreman and maybe Shavers.
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Originally posted by hurricane72 View PostI haven't voted yet on my own thread. But Joe Louis had some amazing knockouts in his title reign. For his size and the era he fought in he was simply awesome. Fighters did 360 degrees,fell like a tree or just shook violently when hit by Joe. As I said earlier it's not easy and you have to think like you would in a P4P listing because Heavyweights have got so much bigger.
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Originally posted by DWiens421 View PostBut they were also KO'ing small ass dudes back then.
Primo Carnera is like Rid**** Bowe size, and he was the only one way back then to be that big.
edit: for example: 1919 World Champ..Jess Willard: 6'6", 250 lbs, 83" wingspan....no small guy. Jim Jeffries...one of the great heavyweight champs that ever lived....6'3", 230 lbs in his prime..that's Ali size. Many more.Last edited by Wiley Hyena; 10-23-2007, 07:55 PM.
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Originally posted by Panamaniac View PostThe name of Earnie Shavers figures prominently in every discussion of hard punchers in the heavyweight division. I suspect that many who declare him the hardest puncher ever, do so for the sole purpose of seeming cool, hip and knowledgeable. If he was as hard a puncher as so many purport him to to be, he must have been one lousy fighter. Otherwise, how do you explain a puncher of his caliber never having won a championship?
I must cop to extreme prejudice against non-champions. To put this in perspective: I have more respect for John Ruiz (a lousy fighter) than I do for Earnie Shavers (a great puncher). In my ****-retentive-narrow-minded point of view, a great puncher who has never won a championship is akin to a toothless pitbull - all bark and no bite.
Shavers sure had some serious competition in his time thought, not quite a fair comparison.
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Originally posted by DWiens421 View PostThe Ring disagrees...
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Originally posted by gavinz1970 View PostI'm not sure "greatest punchers" and "who had the single hardest punch" are exactly the same thing. Lewis was an awsome puncher and did knock people out with single punches, but could he hit as hard as a young Foreman, I'm not so sure.
The one thing I was shocked about was how low Julian Jackson was on the list.
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