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    Originally posted by gixxer View Post
    Peace Dougie,
    It was a good fight. Marguerito looked slow and sluggish early but it also looked like he was picking off a lot of the shots from Williams. Williams doesn’t have any power either. He slaps a lot with an open glove. I don’t think Marguerito did enuff to win but I wanted to know how you saw the fight. I think he landed the more effective punches but Williams tapped him more and definantly outworked him. I know you have to report it non biased but personally how did you score it and see it. Peace my brotha. – Shiz

    I scored it 115-113 for Margarito from ringside. I thought Margarito won rounds 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10 and 11. I thought Williams won rounds 1, 2, 3, 9, 12. Watching the replay on TV, I scored it even, 114-114; the difference being round six, which I scored for Williams. I also thought the ninth round, which seemed like a clear round for Williams from where I sat at the fight was very close watching it on the tube (which was frustrating because it didn’t seem like Lampley, Merchant, Steward or Lederman gave Margarito credit for much of his work).

    In my opinion, the difference between scoring a clear-cut victory for Williams and a draw or close Margarito win was rounds four and five. If you scored those two rounds for Williams (as two of the three official judges did), it was hard not to see the Punisher winning the fight. From where I sat (both at the fight and watching on TV), it appeared that Williams threw a lot of punches and did a lot of moving about the ring, but he did not land a lot of significant shots in those rounds. I thought round four was very competitive, but Margarito took the round on my scorecard by landing the best punches in the final minute of the stanza, causing Williams to retreat. (Of course, following the fourth round on TV, HBO only showed an uppercut landed by Williams as the in-between round highlight, which drove me absolutely insane.) I thought Margarito had Williams in retreat and at the end of right hands for much of the fifth round. Williams did fire back as he backpedaled, but Margarito blocked most of the significant shots (none of that was called by the HBO broadcasters during the round, but Merchant did mention that he scored the round for Margarito, which prevented me from throwing my chair through my TV screen).It’s no big deal, really. I like effective punching over sheer volume. That’s what separates professional boxing from amateur boxing, in my opinion, and that’s why I scored Penalosa over DeLeon, Hopkins (first fight) and Wright over Taylor, and both Mosley (second fight) and Strum over De La Hoya.
    Wasn't Dougie the same idiot who had Morales winning his fight against Raheem?

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      williams won, go on boxrec and look

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        Originally posted by niceguy45 View Post
        guys im not a margarito fan and i scored it even 6 rounds a piece,
        margarito was blocking most of the shots and landed the cleaner shots,
        it did look worse live as the fight was happening more cuz of the crowd and the volume of punches that williams threw, it could of easily be scored a draw, margarito retaining his WBO title, I give williams credit but i can see
        how margarito says that he was robbed, it didn't look close to me the first time but the second time around it.....
        You also scored Oscar/Floyd in favor of Oscar so it's obvious you don't know how to score a fight. Thank God your not a judge.

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          Originally posted by cyberthugpatrol View Post
          hitting gloves does not win you fights.

          Margarito won.
          No but hitting your opponents face with uppercuts, straight lefts and hooks does like Williams was doing.

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            Originally posted by bdevils View Post
            You also scored Oscar/Floyd in favor of Oscar so it's obvious you don't know how to score a fight. Thank God your not a judge.
            look the dlh vs pbf it could of been at least 114-114 floyd didn't do enough in my eyes to beat the champ but anyways that's history and floyd won a cheap D, but all im trying to say on the williams vs margarito is that it looked closer the second time i watched it, the firts time (live) i had it 8-4 williams and the second time 6-6 a piece, im admiting that williams won what's done is done, i give him credit

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              Originally posted by gixxer View Post
              Peace Dougie,
              It was a good fight. Marguerito looked slow and sluggish early but it also looked like he was picking off a lot of the shots from Williams. Williams doesn’t have any power either. He slaps a lot with an open glove. I don’t think Marguerito did enuff to win but I wanted to know how you saw the fight. I think he landed the more effective punches but Williams tapped him more and definantly outworked him. I know you have to report it non biased but personally how did you score it and see it. Peace my brotha. – Shiz

              I scored it 115-113 for Margarito from ringside. I thought Margarito won rounds 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10 and 11. I thought Williams won rounds 1, 2, 3, 9, 12. Watching the replay on TV, I scored it even, 114-114; the difference being round six, which I scored for Williams. I also thought the ninth round, which seemed like a clear round for Williams from where I sat at the fight was very close watching it on the tube (which was frustrating because it didn’t seem like Lampley, Merchant, Steward or Lederman gave Margarito credit for much of his work).

              In my opinion, the difference between scoring a clear-cut victory for Williams and a draw or close Margarito win was rounds four and five. If you scored those two rounds for Williams (as two of the three official judges did), it was hard not to see the Punisher winning the fight. From where I sat (both at the fight and watching on TV), it appeared that Williams threw a lot of punches and did a lot of moving about the ring, but he did not land a lot of significant shots in those rounds. I thought round four was very competitive, but Margarito took the round on my scorecard by landing the best punches in the final minute of the stanza, causing Williams to retreat. (Of course, following the fourth round on TV, HBO only showed an uppercut landed by Williams as the in-between round highlight, which drove me absolutely insane.) I thought Margarito had Williams in retreat and at the end of right hands for much of the fifth round. Williams did fire back as he backpedaled, but Margarito blocked most of the significant shots (none of that was called by the HBO broadcasters during the round, but Merchant did mention that he scored the round for Margarito, which prevented me from throwing my chair through my TV screen).It’s no big deal, really. I like effective punching over sheer volume. That’s what separates professional boxing from amateur boxing, in my opinion, and that’s why I scored Penalosa over DeLeon, Hopkins (first fight) and Wright over Taylor, and both Mosley (second fight) and Strum over De La Hoya.
              thank you, watching the replay i had it even as well

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                I thought the fight was on the table in the last round and Williams clearly won that round to win the fight.


                If you watched that fight close Toney was landing monster body shots throughout that fight and was given very minimal credit for them via HBO.

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                  Originally posted by scap View Post
                  I thought the fight was on the table in the last round and Williams clearly won that round to win the fight.


                  If you watched that fight close Toney was landing monster body shots throughout that fight and was given very minimal credit for them via HBO.
                  those body shots that margarito was landing on williams was even hurting me....he didn't credit from the judges or emmanuel, larry, jim or lederman

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                    This thread still going?

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                      Originally posted by Xcel View Post
                      This thread still going?
                      Exactly. Why is this still a debate? Score it however you want it but make sure you pencil in 7 rounds for Paul.

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