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    Originally posted by considerthis View Post
    I don't know man...if i was a pac fan like yourself I'd be more disappointed in his performance. You knew what to expect from floyd, but somehow focus all your attention on him. You can go on about 1 arm this and that, but at the end if the day pac looked completely flat and disinterested...which is in part what earned him the loss. He had an opportunity to make a fight out of it and horribly underperformed.
    With all the evidences I provided. If Pac is completely flat to your eyes, since he obviously had a torn rotator cuff injury evident to his low punch output of his career, Floyd as well had a low punch out put of his career that night evident from all that running and hugging, but in his case Floyd had no injury and was certainly juiced up. So what's Floyd's excuse? He od'd himself with peds lol

    The crazy thing is compubox was proven to be biased for him, and still Floyd's punch output was still the lowest of his career lmao

    What I'm trying to say is if you think Pac didn't look good that night then what your actually missing is the fact Floyd look even worse than Pac that night lol

    Wether, you think Pac didn't look good. Still evidence points to Pac did enough to bag it. Only shows Floyd even looked worse than he did lol

    And the boos resonated in the MGM Grand after he was announced the winner.

    # the truth

    # Pac despite all the disadvantages going to the fight still connected more

    # IV Floyd underperformed over a one armed man and lost

    # Floyd fought like a vagina
    Last edited by Spoon23; 12-29-2016, 07:23 PM.

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      Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
      OOOO WOW....He got hit, did he get dropped? its a part of boxing.

      This is the Mayweather,Pacquaio would have to deal with in 2009 and 2010

      this was also what a Floyd did to Mosley after the second round



      Must suck being a detractor when the only thing you can pull out your arse is a snippet when Mosley got spanked the whole fight


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      This is what Mayweather did to Marquez 2 years before he knocked Pacquiaio the **** out...you know the fighter Pacquaio couldn't beat decisively in 4 tries...oh Mayweather was inactive 21 months

      You said that Floyd would have done even better defensively so Manny stood no chance. My point is if an old inactive Mosley could have done all that in one round, the younger prime Manny would have tried what Mosley did much more often
      You said that Floyd would have done even better defensively so Manny stood no chance. My point is if an old inactive Mosley could have done all that in one round, the younger prime Manny would have tried what Mosley did much more often. Floyd would be on the defense all night long and you would be hearing not only his daddy but also uncle Roger saying "Floyd, you fighting scared".

      Especially with that version of Manny where you also admit that Manny would be a lot more offensive minded.


      Why are you bringing up Marquez who was anticipating a CW of 144 and Floyd came in at 146? A Marquez that was not fit nor prepared to fight at 147? A Marquez that had 0 fights at 140 and 147? Marquez had nothing to gauge on how he can do at WW.



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      Last edited by ADP02; 12-15-2015, 01:13 AM.

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        Originally posted by considerthis View Post
        The individual score cards have the names of the fighters printed on them...the judges then fill in the color of the corner and the score then sign them. The clerical error was made by whoever was filling in the master scorecard. Again...moretti didn't write anything on the master scorecard, none of the judges do. What you were seeing is the section where it says decision: which is where they write who won. It just hppens to be under one of the judges score totals. There are areas for point deductions and suspensions under the other 2 judges scores, but they were left blank because there weren't any. This is a complete non issue and has been proven so...some just choose not to pay attention in order to keep the conspiricy alive. If you don't believe me, take a look how all the writing on the master scorecard is the same. Does that mean dave moretti filled out all 3 cards? If you are going to argue about this, at least know how it works.
        Correct, I agree with the bold.

        This are the questions.

        If the individual score cards have name and corresponding corners correctly, Pac was on the red corner and Floyd was on Blue right? Then the judges would put 10 on Blue and 9 on Red if the round was on Floyd's favor correct?

        Just like the judges who scores every round by corners and not by name, the clerk also put on the final form the scores by corners and not by name correct? Why is this so, because it's by default that both judges and clerk does not know who were fighting by names.

        Then why on the final form it was the red corner who won the fight?

        your explanation will be that was where the clerical error was made.

        Was this the very first time this happens, the form was wrong and the clerk was new that he decides for himself to put Floyd's score on the red corner because in the form it was Floyd who was on the red corner?

        Did the clerk never bothers to ask his supervisor/manager about this issue?

        Now:

        If the individual score sheet shows Floyd on the red corner and Pac on Blue, and the clerk did his job properly like he do all the time which is put the score by corner. then he will put the scores on red and blue correctly. Not looking at the names. the mistake in the form would be immaterial because he did his job and rightly so in the form it was Floyd on the red corner.

        NSAC would simply says to any question that the form was wrong and it was correctly scored

        Question on the 2nd scenario.

        Why not a single judges raise the issue about the individual score sheet which say Floyd on Red and Pac on Blue when in it was clear that right there in front of their eyes Pac was on red and Floyd on Blue?

        There would be clerical error on this.

        NSAC will simply says to those who will question that it was a mistake in the form but it was scored correctly.

        My point to all of this is whether the scores was put on blue or on red Floyd wins.

        On red - NSAC, form was wrong

        on Blue Floyd - was actually on Blue corner. NSAC, form was wrong.

        Pac was never going to win that fight NEVER>

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          Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
          With all the evidences I provided. If Pac is completely flat to your eyes, since he obviously had a torn rotator cuff injury evident to his low punch output of his career, Floyd as well had a low punch out put of his career that night evident from all that running and hugging, but in his case Floyd had no injury and was certainly juiced up. So what's Floyd's excuse? He od'd himself with peds lol

          The crazy thing is compubox was proven biased for him, and still Floyd's punch out was still the lowest of his career lmao

          What I'm trying to say is if you think Pac didn't look good that night then what your actually missing is the fact Floyd look even worse than Pac that night lol

          Wether, you think Pac didn't look good. Still evidence points to Pac did enough to bag it. Only shows Floyd even looked worse than he did lol

          And the boos resonated in the MGM Grand after he was announced the winner.

          # the truth

          # IV Floyd underperformed over a one armed man and lost

          # Floyd fought like a vagina
          All in all a terrible fight. Pac looked confused and discouraged. The right guy won. We all got robbed.

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            Originally posted by considerthis View Post
            All in all a terrible fight. Floyd looked confused and discouraged. The right guy didn't win. We all got robbed.
            Fixed it for you.

            Floyd looked lost that night from all the running and hugging.

            Yes we got robbed.

            Pac connected more even with his handicapped condition.

            Which is..

            Legendary

            Here is an example how confused Floyd is:






            No where to go Floyd?
            Last edited by Spoon23; 12-15-2015, 01:42 AM.

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              Originally posted by Rath View Post
              Correct, I agree with the bold.

              This are the questions.

              If the individual score cards have name and corresponding corners correctly, Pac was on the red corner and Floyd was on Blue right? Then the judges would put 10 on Blue and 9 on Red if the round was on Floyd's favor correct?

              Just like the judges who scores every round by corners and not by name, the clerk also put on the final form the scores by corners and not by name correct? Why is this so, because it's by default that both judges and clerk does not know who were fighting by names.

              Then why on the final form it was the red corner who won the fight?

              your explanation will be that was where the clerical error was made.

              Was this the very first time this happens, the form was wrong and the clerk was new that he decides for himself to put Floyd's score on the red corner because in the form it was Floyd who was on the red corner?

              Did the clerk never bothers to ask his supervisor/manager about this issue?

              Now:

              If the individual score sheet shows Floyd on the red corner and Pac on Blue, and the clerk did his job properly like he do all the time which is put the score by corner. then he will put the scores on red and blue correctly. Not looking at the names. the mistake in the form would be immaterial because he did his job and rightly so in the form it was Floyd on the red corner.

              NSAC would simply says to any question that the form was wrong and it was correctly scored

              Question on the 2nd scenario.

              Why not a single judges raise the issue about the individual score sheet which say Floyd on Red and Pac on Blue when in it was clear that right there in front of their eyes Pac was on red and Floyd on Blue?

              There would be clerical error on this.

              NSAC will simply says to those who will question that it was a mistake in the form but it was scored correctly.

              My point to all of this is whether the scores was put on blue or on red Floyd wins.

              On red - NSAC, form was wrong

              on Blue Floyd - was actually on Blue corner. NSAC, form was wrong.

              Pac was never going to win that fight NEVER>
              I don't know how to make this any more simple. The judges never saw a master scoresheet...they didn't tabulate their own final scores. They get 12 seperate cards for each round that has the fighters name and round number stamped on it along with boxes for corner, point deductions and score. It is the judges responsibility to fill in what corner each fighter is in and what the score of the round is...then they sign it and someone from the commission collects them. Someone else tabulates the scores according to the name of the fighter which is printed on all the cards and the master scorecard. That person mixed up the corners, not the judges...they would have never seen the mistake. Like i said, the individual round by round cards were presented to the media and the score totals were verified. You can look this stuff up. Instead you guys feed off eachother and work yourself into a frenzy off hearsay instead of taking the time to find out for yourself.

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                Originally posted by considerthis View Post
                I don't know how to make this any more simple. The judges never saw a master scoresheet...they didn't tabulate their own final scores. They get 12 seperate cards for each round that has the fighters name and round number stamped on it along with boxes for corner, point deductions and score. It is the judges responsibility to fill in what corner each fighter is in and what the score of the round is...then they sign it and someone from the commission collects them. Someone else tabulates the scores according to the name of the fighter which is printed on all the cards and the master scorecard. That person mixed up the corners, not the judges...they would have never seen the mistake. Like i said, the individual round by round cards were presented to the media and the score totals were verified. You can look this stuff up. Instead you guys feed off eachother and work yourself into a frenzy off hearsay instead of taking the time to find out for yourself.
                simple question, what corner did they filled when Floyd wins the round?

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                  The card pact@rds are raving about...

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                    The version corrected by the nsac...

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                      Individual judge copies from round 9 that shows 2 for pac and 1 for mayweather...what does the master scorecard say?

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