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    Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
    Lol You dumbass.. You came in here and didn't read the thread and you expect to make sense.

    This is about the fight analysis. And yes it is to show who really won that night and it's not the IV dude who paid of USADA 150k lol


    The slowmo is only a tool to truly show who landed more throughout the fight. If you can't handle the truth and you are left spouting empty nonsense like most flowtards in here. Then you are nothing but a troll crying over this lmao

    # Floyd fan crying in here again with empty logic

    # floyd fan can't handle the threat topic

    # Floyd fan cannot dispute

    # checkmate



    how am i a floyd fan in any way?

    its just funny to see filipinos not accept pacquiaos loss thats all

    it seems youve been rebuttaling everyone here for 50 pages, have fun buddy

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      Originally posted by Rath View Post
      you could have done that yourself had you not been preoccupied with my dad's penis.
      Switched to your alt so you didn't have to respond to your video being picked apart i see. Butthurt pu55y. I know that's you in the videos too lol. Learn the basic rules of boxing before spending the time to make a video and then come off looking like an idiot.

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        Originally posted by considerthis View Post
        Switched to your alt so you didn't have to respond to your video being picked apart i see. Butthurt pu55y. I know that's you in the videos too lol. Learn the basic rules of boxing before spending the time to make a video and then come off looking like an idiot.
        yusaf mack

        how did you know he picked spoon's video apart when you did not watch the video yourself? because if you do you and not him would have noticed it.

        because it favors floyd?

        genius floyd fan logic.

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          Originally posted by AndreaWard View Post
          Why not?

          In the first video (round 2),
          At 5:30, you say that Pac's third punch landed and it rocked Floyd, when in reality the sound came from Floyd's left hook. If anything, Pac was the one left off balance as he was diving in and Floyd connected, leaving Pac off balance and stuck in the corner.

          From 7:40, you go on saying that Floyd's 4 punches in the clinch don't count. This is wrong since if the ref doesn't tell the fighters to break, the fighters have to fight their way out of it. Before you go "it's Kenny Bayless' fault", Bayless had refed 7 of Pac's fights before, showing that Pac's team had no problem with him as the ref.

          At 9:15, you say that Pac lands a left to the body, when Pac CLEARLY misses and almost hits the ring post, followed by a left (a pit-pat punch) and a right that completely misses (you can easily see it at 9:20). You yourself admit that at best they're "grazing shots" not clean punches. Also, for whatever odd reason you think that hitting on the "orbital bone" is less valuable than the chin. The most important factor in judging is if they're clean shots (to the face or the front and sides of the torso) and if they hurt the fighter, not where specifically they land on their face.

          At 10:20, the 3 punches by Floyd do count, even if they are in the clinch.

          At 10:29, Floyd lands a clean right to Pac's face, and Pac retreats while throwing a right jab. According to you, Pac landed his jab but 1) you can't hear the sound of Pac's punch, 2) Floyd's head doesn't snap back or react.

          At 10:31, you very quickly give a point to Pac for his right, with no explanation, even though it lands on Floyd's shoulder/armpit.

          At 10:37, you give a point to Pac for landing with his left to Floyd's body. This is incorrect as the sound comes from the second right jab by Pac that lands on Floyd's glove. The left misses.

          At 11:06, you don't count the left punch by Floyd to Pac's face that forced Pac to retreat

          At 11:26, you give two points to Pac for 1) a right that doesn't connect and 2) a left to Floyd's body that's not visible when they're clinched together.

          In summary, 8 of the blows you give to Pac are disputable or nonexistent, while you leave out 9 of Floyd's hits (7 coming from the clinch). If anything, watching the fight in slow motion is more favorable to Floyd since his blows are mainly to either quick jabs or straights to the face.

          Also, you claim that the videos go blow by blow and are the FULL three minutes of each round. Yet the videos skip around, for example the first video starts at 2:43 of the second round.

          At the end of the day, let it go. Pac lost decisively. He couldn't cope with Floyd's reach and kept on getting hit by Floyd's rights. In terms of defense, Floyd barely got hit by anything Pac threw. Pac didn't have effective aggression because he was just coming forward and not landing anything. If anything, Maidana was more effective than Pac in first fight by smothering Floyd. The sequence at 5:30 shows how much Pac was uncomfortable by lunging in and losing balance. Lastly, Floyd showed greater ring generalship since he was making Pac fight his type of fight. Pac spent most of the fight chasing Floyd and being too out of range to land on him.

          Green k! Glad you watched those crap videos. After watching the fight in Slow motion, I changed my scoring from 8 rounds to 4, to 10 rounds to 2 PAC losing! The fight wasn't close!

          The first Castillo fight was close. The first Maidana fight was close. I can see why he gave them rematches. Canelo wasn't a close fight either.

          But if PAC had worn better fitting socks, and set traps for Floyd, he might have done better. Marquez had his one dimensional style figured out!

          This fight was for all the marbles! If Manny would have beaten Floyd, his fanatics would claim that Manny beat the man, who beat Marquez, Hatton, Canelo, & is the king of boxing forever & ever!

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            Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
            Green k! Glad you watched those crap videos. After watching the fight in Slow motion, I changed my scoring from 8 rounds to 4, to 10 rounds to 2 PAC losing! The fight wasn't close!

            The first Castillo fight was close. The first Maidana fight was close. I can see why he gave them rematches. Canelo wasn't a close fight either.

            But if PAC had worn better fitting socks, and set traps for Floyd, he might have done better. Marquez had his one dimensional style figured out!

            This fight was for all the marbles! If Manny would have beaten Floyd, his fanatics would claim that Manny beat the man, who beat Marquez, Hatton, Canelo, & is the king of boxing forever & ever!
            zaroku check

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              Originally posted by Rath View Post
              yusaf mack

              how did you know he picked spoon's video apart when you did not watch the video yourself? because if you do you and not him would have noticed it.

              because it favors floyd?

              genius floyd fan logic.
              I did and even commented on it...but you ignored that of course. To be honest i only watched about half, but it was all i needed to see. You score punches for pac that clearly miss and call hitting with the free hand in the clinch illegal lol. YDKSAB.

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                Originally posted by considerthis View Post
                I did and even commented on it...but you ignored that of course. To be honest i only watched about half, but it was all i needed to see. You score punches for pac that clearly miss and call hitting with the free hand in the clinch illegal lol. YDKSAB.
                really now yusaf mack?

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                  Originally posted by Rath View Post
                  zaroku check
                  Check what?

                  Manny needed to maul Floyd. Kenny Bayless broke them too quickly. But I believe that this helped Manny. After Tony Weeks let Maidana maul Floyd, he won't ever ref a Floyd fight again. I loved seeing Floyd under duress. Looking for Weeks to break them up. Maidana & Castillo made it rough for Floyd!

                  Maidana was the nut cracker with all those sweet low blows. It was funking hillarious! Castillo out landed Floyd, but lost the fight. Vegas right.

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                    Originally posted by Rath View Post
                    really now yusaf mack?
                    Yes gaysian...your videos are ****. Don't know the rules=zero credibility.

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                      Originally posted by SUCIO416 View Post
                      how am i a floyd fan in any way?

                      its just funny to see filipinos not accept pacquiaos loss thats all

                      it seems youve been rebuttaling everyone here for 50 pages, have fun buddy
                      I'm an American.

                      Just because I'm a Pacquiao fan I'm a filipino lol racist much?

                      FYI I'm a Pacquiao fan and a Floyd fan. Right now I'm pissed off if the rumors are true he is fighting Bradley.

                      As a boxing fan of both I'm critical to these boxers. As you can see I'm critical to Floyd since he has fooled a lot of you fanboys, but not me. If a fighter becomes a fraud he is not entitled to any immunity.

                      Cheers!
                      Last edited by Spoon23; 12-10-2015, 03:42 AM.

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