Pac/Floyd investigation, documented punches (disputed rounds) blow by blow

[travestyny]

Isn't this what you wanted?


Plus we wouldn't have to go round and round anymore. I'll accept what the poll says in the end. You accept it, too.

Let's act like men and shake hands on it. Accept the challenge. Here...I'm extending an olive branch:

So do you agree? Yes or no?

[ADP02]

Objective? You want to be objective? Ok. You didn't see an MRI for Pacquiao. What you saw was someone who everyone stated didn't have an injury going into the fight, didn't show any sign of an injury during the fight, and didn't rehab like someone with this injury after the fight.

Yet you said you believe him. Ostensibly, this is because he used a world renowned doctor. You don't take into account that this same doctor was completely willing to give Manny a Toradol shot for an injury that he claims he didn't have. that doesn't hit you as strange at all. All of these things make zero sense.

Yet, you say...what about Floyd.

1. NSAC has never in it's history proven anyone to be dehydrated. Don't you find that odd when I'm sure there were ZILLIIONS of dehydrated boxers.

2. You completely ignore that the USADA TUEC approved the application that did NOT have Mayweather's name on it according to the rules. You also ignore that the application was sent to WADA. You DEFLECT and say USADA's TUEC was either fooled, or was biased, and WADA had no time to look it over. That's like saying someone sends the details of what may have been a burglary to the police chief, and the chief may or may not have gone over the details, no charges were filed...so we presume guilt? That's asinine.

3. Again, you talk about being objective...but you can't even admit that Floyd tried to fight prime Manny. Dude. I thought you were much more of a stand up person than that. Keep it real. You DEFLECTED.

4. I wasn't there to know what USADA did. IF USADA did something wrong, it was WADA's job to correct it. WADA didn't. I don't know if they checked it out or not. But they did nothing. That ends the case.

5. Even if USADA did something wrong, that does NOT mean Floyd used PED's. Your challenge is 2 tiered. Not only are you trying to prove USADA did something wrong, which you can't...you are trying to prove Mayweather abused PED's, which you've failed miserably at.

6. You refuse to admit that EPO is not a threshold substance. Again, very disappointing of you. You won't even address it anymore.





You fail to show why any of this is substantive.

1. USADA said Pac's team never said what the meds were for. Just asked if they were allowed.

2. NSAD didn't know anything about the injury until a couple of hours before. Pac's team said they sent them paperwork. This was proven to be a LIE. Then they said USADA was supposed to tell them. USADA stated they knew nothing about this injury, and it was a LIE. You are being shot in the foot by Manny's lying team. I don't know how you can't see through all of these lies his team has told. A plethora of lies, and you think it's all on the up and up???

3. When the team was CAUGHT trying to give the meds, what the **** did you think they would say. "Oh, we were...just going to take them...for fun." Of course they have to say they are for an injury.

4. And I actually believe he tweeked the shoulder and had it treated. That does NOT mean he can use meds when it is already back to normal strength, as his own surgeon said.



What the hell do you want me to do? Do you think I can pull evidence from my ass like you attempt to do? There is a system. The system is...the TUEC checks...and WADA checks them. That is what happened. Go take up your beef with WADA. Tell them to get on their job.



Dude, do you really think this is the same for a boxing match? Serious question. To some extent I agree they can hide the pain, but look at all of the other examples. The injury definitely showed in all of those situations...except Pacquaio's. Did you ever keep it real and ask yourself why? Nope. You didn't. So how are you going to talk to me about objectivity?

Those other guys said they had a large amount of pain. Maybe Pacquiao did also and he masked it....but the thing is all of those other guys were whispering to their trainers, they were getting iced, they were changing the way they box. Manny did none of that and you know it.


Lastly, and most importantly, none of this shlt matters. There is zero proof of blood doping. None. There is zero proof that Manny had an injury going into the fight. Actually, there is more proof that he did NOT have an injury going into the fight.

Once they are in the ring, whatever happens happens. He lost. Get over it already.

WOW!!!

So with Manny, you need to see evidence of Manny's injury or its not true. Even though he had an operation. By examining and with MRIs, other doctor's confirmed many months after surgery that it was not fully healed and so on.


In the same freaking post, for Floyd, you saw no evidence of severe dehydration and believe it because of what? Why are you talking from both sides of your mouth. Manny one way and Floyd another way?

The TUEC read one side of the story. The TUEC were feed what Floyd's doctor told them was the problem.

USADA decides who gets investigated.

The head of WADA TUE Committee says there are RED FLAGs here and so it deserves an investigation!!! BUT went as far as to say that Floyd didn't deserve a RETRO TUE!!! USADA was NOT TOTALLY INDEPENDANT!!!

Can you not see a problem when Floyd's team have given USADA a truck load of money and a foot into the door of boxing and which now spread to other combat sports? That is why USADA just complied minimally with Floyd. That is an issue that WADA admitted is out there. The head of WADA TUE Committee had words about USADA that were not pleasant and it was not just about Floyd.

NSAC has said not so pleasant words about USADA either!!!

The decision was USADA's to make on Floyd. They failed big time!!! Their relationship was the key factor here.

ASADA had pointed out that if an athlete wants to use an IV just before giving a urine sample, ITS A RED FLAG. USADA? Its not a red flag if the athletes' name is Floyd Mayweather!!!

"The majority of athletes are not using the TUE system to cheat. But in a recent interview with NewsTalk, Ross Tucker, an exercise physiologist who writes for the Science of Sport website, explains that there are three pillars in which the whole TUE system rests."

“The first is an honest athlete, the second one is that you need a doctor with the integrity and the ethics to not also manipulate the system, and the third one is that you need credible oversight from the sport’s governing body and then WADA,” he said. “If any one of those three things fails, then the TUE system can be abused.”

[Spoon23]

Isn't this what you wanted?


Plus we wouldn't have to go round and round anymore. I'll accept what the poll says in the end. You accept it, too.

Let's act like men and shake hands on it. Accept the challenge. Here...I'm extending an olive branch:

So do you agree? Yes or no?

???

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Tina Turner says your not worthy in the thunderdome. Even thieves and criminals have honor, but you, your constant lies and shameless defeats, don't give you the ticket in to the thunderdome, but what I can give you is a ticket to the other lame money grab cherry picking fight that Floyd is preparing to scam the public for his 50th fight. This is another bank heist, I had some friends who sold me a ticket. I'm giving to you so you can learn to smile again. I want you to be happy. Here's a front row seats to the McGregor FLoyd fight.

Yesss! You get a ticket to the next big Floyd heist! Enjoy this mismatch bwhahahahahahaaha!! Oh yeah, expect Floyd to make McGregor wear Pilow gloves on for the very first time lolololol

[travestyny]

WOW!!!

So with Manny, you need to see evidence of Manny's injury or its not true. Even though he had an operation. By examining and with MRIs, other doctor's confirmed many months after surgery that it was not fully healed and so on.

This is simple but you're having a hard time understanding. I do actually believe he had some sort of operation. Do I believe it was for a full-thickness rotator cuff tear? HELL NO! And I didn't see ONE MRI. Did you? If so, pass it on to me.

In the same freaking post, for Floyd, you saw no evidence of severe dehydration and believe it because of what? Why are you talking from both sides of your mouth. Manny one way and Floyd another way?

I am not aware that it need be severe dehydration, first of all. Second, I've already explained this to you. USADA's TUEC is a group of at least 3 independent doctors THAT DIDN'T HAVE HIS NAME ON THE APPLICATION. And if that wasn't enough, THE APPLICATION WAS SENT TO WADA TO REVIEW. That's a whole lot of people who would have to be in on this conspiracy theory of yours. One that makes no sense, especially when you realize it's for Saline and vitamins and you can't link it to PED's. You failed.

The TUEC read one side of the story. The TUEC were feed what Floyd's doctor told them was the problem.

Speculation. You have no idea about these doctors and how skilled they have to be and what they do. So...and I've been trying to be respectful...but shut up.

USADA decides who gets investigated.

The head of WADA TUE Committee says there are RED FLAGs here and so it deserves an investigation!!! BUT went as far as to say that Floyd didn't deserve a RETRO TUE!!! USADA was NOT TOTALLY INDEPENDANT!!!

Can you not see a problem when Floyd's team have given USADA a truck load of money and a foot into the door of boxing and which now spread to other combat sports? That is why USADA just complied minimally with Floyd. That is an issue that WADA admitted is out there. The head of WADA TUE Committee had words about USADA that were not pleasant and it was not just about Floyd.

NSAC has said not so pleasant words about USADA either!!!

The decision was USADA's to make on Floyd. They failed big time!!! Their relationship was the key factor here.

ASADA had pointed out that if an athlete wants to use an IV just before giving a urine sample, ITS A RED FLAG. USADA? Its not a red flag if the athletes' name is Floyd Mayweather!!!

"The majority of athletes are not using the TUE system to cheat. But in a recent interview with NewsTalk, Ross Tucker, an exercise physiologist who writes for the Science of Sport website, explains that there are three pillars in which the whole TUE system rests."

“The first is an honest athlete, the second one is that you need a doctor with the integrity and the ethics to not also manipulate the system, and the third one is that you need credible oversight from the sport’s governing body and then WADA,” he said. “If any one of those three things fails, then the TUE system can be abused.”

DOn't see your point. Of course they decide who to investigate. They also get the application checked out by the independent TUEC. And if that's not enough, they send it to WADA to review.

So..what's your issue? Did WADA review it? Do you know? I know they didn't overturn it. That pretty much shuts down all of your bs.

Add in that USADA's DCO was present for the IV and a sample was taken before and after the IV.....you have no hope. Give up already!

[travestyny]

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Tina Turner says your not worthy in the thunderdome. Even thieves and criminals have honor, but you, your constant lies and shameless defeats, don't give you the ticket in to the thunderdome, but what I can give you is a ticket to the other lame money grab cherry picking fight that Floyd is preparing to scam the public for his 50th fight. This is another bank heist, I had some friends who sold me a ticket. I'm giving to you so you can learn to smile again. I want you to be happy. Here's a front row seats to the McGregor FLoyd fight.

Yesss! You get a ticket to the next big Floyd heist! Enjoy this mismatch bwhahahahahahaaha!! Oh yeah, expect Floyd to make McGregor wear Pilow gloves on for the very first time lolololol

Yo ShoulderRoll, this dude bringing up Tina Turner, McGregor, and pink slippers and shlt.


I just hope everyone here realizes what a bltch he is. It's over now. Glad you bowed down, Spoon.

[Spoon23]

Yo ShoulderRoll, this dude bringing up Tina Turner, McGregor, and pink slippers and shlt.


I just hope everyone here realizes what a bltch he is. It's over now. Glad you bowed down, Spoon.

hahahahahaha!!

ShoulderRoll, wimped out along time ago. Ask ADP02 for details hahaha!

He swings by from time to time while hiding in the bushes making sure he stays away from the line of fire. He's pussifiication is etched in stone hahaha!

You know were the real Thunderdome is??

This thread is brother!!

150,000 boxing viewers to date exposing the truth about Floyd. All time greatest expose thread in NSB.



Where Flowmo hoes gets owned everyday bwahahahaha!!

[ShoulderRoll]

Yo ShoulderRoll, this dude bringing up Tina Turner, McGregor, and pink slippers and shlt.


I just hope everyone here realizes what a bltch he is. It's over now. Glad you bowed down, Spoon.

You offered him a chance to debate his beloved video and have some judges decide who has the better arguments. That's what I thought he wanted, isn't this the whole point of his "investigation?"

The Thunderdome guys can be vicious but they will be fair. I don't get why he's b1tching out now.

[Spoon23]

You offered him a chance to debate his beloved video and have some judges decide who has the better arguments. That's what I thought he wanted, isn't this the whole point of his "investigation?"

The Thunderdome guys can be vicious but they will be fair. I don't get why he's b1tching out now.

lolololololol

No, that's what you guys wanted to do, so you guys can redeem yourselves from being owned in this epic thread hahahaha! The reel keeps on going. You can't make this thing up hahahaha!

And by having to put up a selected jury, based on fl0mo brethrens who will be both illogical and pathetic enough to think being in a thunderdome is the way to go is quite simple a new low for your kind hahaha!

Your so called thunderdome is where NSB juvenile misfits reside, you guys belong there. It's a kangaroo court full of lonely men sucking on Floyd nectar that's what it is hahahaha! NSBs premium banana republic as the self appointed Chief production specialist, ShoulderRoll will be asking for judges to set it up lololololol

Let me know if you want me to start a thread for this in the Thunderdome. I'll ask for judges and set it up

ORDER! ORDER! I SAY!!

BWAHAHAHAHA!!



Are you telling the truth son??



TravestyNY: "Yes, I am, Believe me I am, I'm supported by ******s. Take a look at my friends seating down. They love me here."






BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

[travestyny]

lolololololol

No, that's what you guys wanted to do, so you guys can redeem yourselves from being owned in this epic thread hahahaha! The reel keeps on going. You can't make this thing up hahahaha!

And by having to put up a selected jury, based on fl0mo brethrens who will be both illogical and pathetic enough to think being in a thunderdome is the way to go is quite simple a new low for your kind hahaha!

Your so called thunderdome is where NSB juvenile misfits reside, you guys belong there. It's a kangaroo court full of lonely men sucking on Floyd nectar that's what it is hahahaha! NSBs premium banana republic as the self appointed Chief production specialist, ShoulderRoll will be asking for judges to set it up lololololol



ORDER! ORDER! I SAY!!

BWAHAHAHAHA!!


Are you telling the truth son??



TravestyNY: "Yes, I am, Believe me I am, I'm supported by ******s. Take a look at my friends seating down. They love me here."






BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Shut your dumb ass, ducking ass up. Everyone already witnessed you turn into a straight up coward. You are less than a man, but honestly no one expected anything more from you, and that's just sad, don't you think?

Everyone already knows you're a bltch. That must be hard to live with.

[ShoulderRoll]

Your so called thunderdome is where NSB juvenile misfits reside, you guys belong there.

I would get you neutral judges who are neither Pac tards nor Floyd fans. The Thunderdome can get a little rough but they will give you a fair shake.

Of course, you'll have to come up with something of substance in your arguments. "Wear pink flip flops" and "Travolta bam bammed you, missy" aren't really going to cut it over there.

But maybe that's why you're too scared to leave the safety of your bubble and defend your opinions over there?