Pac/Floyd investigation, documented punches (disputed rounds) blow by blow

[Reloaded]

"In the eyes of the judges who controlled the fight A or B .

In the eyes of Boxing , Media , World news , World Sport , Web sites , lets just say 99.99999999999999999999999999 of the worlds population , who do you think they believe controlled the fight A or B ."

easy...the answer is very simple.....Fighter A.....

because the eyes that scored the fight for A floyd were not as sharp and objective as a tv camera.....

Ah ha this is were youre wrong the TV camera cannot interpret anything , men do just like the narrator of the videos made his own interpretation , men declared Floyd the winner lots and lots of them all over the world .

The interpretation is the all important ruling the camera sees its perspective only it cannot catch every angle at the same time a technical impossibility this is not a line call to tenth of an inch its boxing 2 guys constantly moving around in 3d space so you are never ever seeing the fight in all its glory from all angles , so in essence the camera does lie about what the camera cannot see because we men make up what it cant see to suit out agendas , you are shown a perspective and then make judgement on that one perspective , the judges are 3 perspectives and they all scored the fight for Floyd and nobody worth a dime in the whole world has complained about it .

If I were an outsider looking in I would say that Floyd won clearly and the losing sides most extremist fans cannot face that realization .

[Reloaded]

Says the guy who is complaining about Torodal which is not banned while Floyd was allowed to get an IV that is banned!!!

Khan got 2 points deducted. Floyd didn't against Manny nor against Maidana. Why? No hard warnings. Why? Maidana got a point deducted with no hard warnings after Floyd threw many elbows, why?


Manny went to his doctor who monitored his injured shoulder and prescribed the drugs. USADA new about them and approved them for the fight. So definitely there was a problem with Manny's shoulder. Then after the fight there is more proof by his doctor and the surgery. Also before the fight the injury was discussed. The drugs were also on the pre-fight form but they did incorrectly check mark on "shoulder injury".

Manny was not allowed to get it but here you are complaining. Crazy, no?


Floyd did not complain to the NSAC doctors nor did he mark down that he was severely dehydrated on the pre-fight form. The examination diagnosis was that Floyd's vital signs were all normal.

Floyd gets an IV with no approvals prior to the fight. Yet RELOADED is not bringing this up. WHY???

Floyd could use it to mask PEDs for one. Secondly what Floyd did was delay giving his urine samples. That delay could have been so that USADA would not be able to pick up in their tests if Floyd was micro-dosing his PEDs.

So Floyd said that he was so dehydrated that he just had to get an IV.
Question: Do you actually believe that BS from Floyd? Remember that this was AFTER the weigh in and Floyd has said on numerous times that he made the 147 weigh in EASILY! Floyd came in at 146 like usual!!!

Spin me a river will you spin doctor , fck wouldnt it be a breath of fresh air if you could just answer a simple question .

WHY DID MANNY WANT A SHOT OF TORADOL RIGHT BEFORE THE FIGHT WHEN NOTHING WAS WRONG WITH HIM ,

Come on Doc if you must avoid the answer then justify it ?

[Real King Kong]

Says the guy who is complaining about Torodal which is not banned while Floyd was allowed to get an IV that is banned!!!

Khan got 2 points deducted. Floyd didn't against Manny nor against Maidana. Why? No hard warnings. Why? Maidana got a point deducted with no hard warnings after Floyd threw many elbows, why?


Manny went to his doctor who monitored his injured shoulder and prescribed the drugs. USADA new about them and approved them for the fight. So definitely there was a problem with Manny's shoulder. Then after the fight there is more proof by his doctor and the surgery. Also before the fight the injury was discussed. The drugs were also on the pre-fight form but they did incorrectly check mark on "shoulder injury".

Manny was not allowed to get it but here you are complaining. Crazy, no?


Floyd did not complain to the NSAC doctors nor did he mark down that he was severely dehydrated on the pre-fight form. The examination diagnosis was that Floyd's vital signs were all normal.

Floyd gets an IV with no approvals prior to the fight. Yet RELOADED is not bringing this up. WHY???

Floyd could use it to mask PEDs for one. Secondly what Floyd did was delay giving his urine samples. That delay could have been so that USADA would not be able to pick up in their tests if Floyd was micro-dosing his PEDs.

So Floyd said that he was so dehydrated that he just had to get an IV.
Question: Do you actually believe that BS from Floyd? Remember that this was AFTER the weigh in and Floyd has said on numerous times that he made the 147 weigh in EASILY! Floyd came in at 146 like usual!!!

IV is not banned by nsac

[Spoon23]

Says the guy who is complaining about Torodal which is not banned while Floyd was allowed to get an IV that is banned!!!

Khan got 2 points deducted. Floyd didn't against Manny nor against Maidana. Why? No hard warnings. Why? Maidana got a point deducted with no hard warnings after Floyd threw many elbows, why?


Manny went to his doctor who monitored his injured shoulder and prescribed the drugs. USADA new about them and approved them for the fight. So definitely there was a problem with Manny's shoulder. Then after the fight there is more proof by his doctor and the surgery. Also before the fight the injury was discussed. The drugs were also on the pre-fight form but they did incorrectly check mark on "shoulder injury".

Manny was not allowed to get it but here you are complaining. Crazy, no?


Floyd did not complain to the NSAC doctors nor did he mark down that he was severely dehydrated on the pre-fight form. The examination diagnosis was that Floyd's vital signs were all normal.

Floyd gets an IV with no approvals prior to the fight. Yet RELOADED is not bringing this up. WHY???

Floyd could use it to mask PEDs for one. Secondly what Floyd did was delay giving his urine samples. That delay could have been so that USADA would not be able to pick up in their tests if Floyd was micro-dosing his PEDs.

So Floyd said that he was so dehydrated that he just had to get an IV.
Question: Do you actually believe that BS from Floyd? Remember that this was AFTER the weigh in and Floyd has said on numerous times that he made the 147 weigh in EASILY! Floyd came in at 146 like usual!!!

Lol Reloaded now has more backlog questions to answer..

Poor lad

Looking forward to seeing him answer these questions. That is if he won't hide under a quilt again

[Rath]

IV is not banned by nsac

only if you are severely dehydrated

should be administered by authorized person

and limited amount.

were these conditions met by Floyd?

[tangalog2200]

Ah ha this is were youre wrong the TV camera cannot interpret anything , men do just like the narrator of the videos made his own interpretation , men declared Floyd the winner lots and lots of them all over the world .

The interpretation is the all important ruling the camera sees its perspective only it cannot catch every angle at the same time a technical impossibility this is not a line call to tenth of an inch its boxing 2 guys constantly moving around in 3d space so you are never ever seeing the fight in all its glory from all angles , so in essence the camera does lie about what the camera cannot see because we men make up what it cant see to suit out agendas , you are shown a perspective and then make judgement on that one perspective , the judges are 3 perspectives and they all scored the fight for Floyd and nobody worth a dime in the whole world has complained about it .

If I were an outsider looking in I would say that Floyd won clearly and the losing sides most extremist fans cannot face that realization .

this is where you again stumble....

the camera does NOT INTERPRET! It shows what transpired during that night...

as faithfully as any eyes can be....a very sharp eye that catches what human eyes can not...in split second mode.....

and it is an objective eye....not affected by any bias or vested interest....

between the videos and the judges score cards which show what really transpired during the fight?

i am still waiting...

[Reloaded]

Lol Reloaded now has more backlog questions to answer..

Poor lad

Looking forward to seeing him answer these questions. That is if he won't hide under a quilt again

Then why do you run to a empty finish line every time you are cornered , you have no ending in your fantasy land just hop skip and jump , Floyds ending will stand in history forever , you will be an old man thinking what a fckn dead sht you were , or maybe not , some ****** people never realize how dumb they were .

Your hero lost and so did you and you treasure that loss like fools gold , you are not right up top kiddo .

[ADP02]

Did you know this about the bible?

New International Version of the Bible

Thanks to Otis Graf for compiling this list. ofgraf@gmail.com

Job 9:8

He alone stretches out the heavens _ and treads on the waves of the sea.
Psalm 104:2

The LORD wraps himself in light as with a garment; _ he stretches out the heavens like a tent
Isaiah 40:22

He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, _ and its people are like grasshoppers. _He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, _ and spreads them out like a tent to live in.
Isaiah 42:5

This is what God the LORD saysÑ _the Creator of the heavens, who stretches them out, _ who spreads out the earth with all that springs from it, _ who gives breath to its people, _ and life to those who walk on it
Isaiah 44:24

ÒThis is what the LORD saysÑ _ your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am the LORD, _ the Maker of all things, _ who stretches out the heavens, _ who spreads out the earth by myself,
Isaiah 45:12

It is I who made the earth _ and created mankind on it. _My own hands stretched out the heavens; _ I marshaled their starry hosts.
Isaiah 48:13

My own hand laid the foundations of the earth, _ and my right hand spread out the heavens; _when I summon them, _ they all stand up together.
Isaiah 51:13

that you forget the LORD your Maker, _ who stretches out the heavens _ and who lays the foundations of the earth, _that you live in constant terror every day _ because of the wrath of the oppressor, _ who is bent on destruction?
Jeremiah 10:12

But God made the earth by his power; _ he founded the world by his wisdom _ and stretched out the heavens by his understanding.
Jeremiah 51:15

ÒHe made the earth by his power; _ he founded the world by his wisdom _ and stretched out the heavens by his understanding.
Zechariah 12:1

The LORD, who stretches out the heavens, who lays the foundation of the earth, and who forms the human spirit within a person, declares: 2 ÒI am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem.
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Hugh Ross has referred to some of these passages in his writing to correlate with the evidence for fine-tuned expansion of the universe. He was criticized by William Lane Craig for taking the interpretation of scripture far beyond what could possibly have been understood by the original audience for those scriptures. That generated a lively debate among the RTB volunteer apologists, and one of the things that came out of it was this list of scriptures from multiple locations that speak of the spreading of the heavens like a tent. Part of the discussion was trying to make a distinction between scriptures that obviously had a specific intent for a specific group of people, like Jeremiah 29:11, versus scriptures that were directed toward universal and timeless truths. One of the arguments presented was that universal truths were written to apply to future generations as well, and that it was plausible to assume that there might have been an intent to speak to the understandings of the heavens that exists in our day. It's still a stretch."

Those passages sound like someone in the know but I can't say either way.

The difficulty with scriptures is that for both good and not so good, people have used it for their own purpose. Knowing people from different denominations, I have seen how the Bible has been used and interpreted to mean whatever they wished it to be. Some of which have been so twisted and unbelievable ...... but they still preach it with a straight face just to get some lost souls to join their church.

[Spoon23]

only if you are severely dehydrated

should be administered by authorized person

and limited amount.

were these conditions met by Floyd?

Considerthis didnt seem to recall, NSAC Bennett being adamant for not being informed of the TUE.

The protocol is no injections unless it's under 50ml every 6 hours or for emergency. Floyd took 250 ml and 500 ml at once the night before the fight.mmmmm

That's the most disturbing part. Reeks of corruption. The strange part was that NSAC was furious at USADA for even granting the the****utic use exemption. They claim only they can grant it in Nevada, not USADA. Either way, Floyd bought both of them.



Reached for comment about the SB Nation piece, Bennett told the Review-Journal on Wednesday


"As far as USADA, I was extremely disappointed that I wasn't notified right away (about Mayweather receiving an IV). When it comes to TUE, we are the sole agency that approves the administering of TUEs. USADA, nor any other anti-doping agency that does drug testing, doesn't have the authority to adminster a TUE.

"The bottom line is USADA didn't keep us informed, which is totally unacceptable and unprofessional."

And yet...

after three weeks chaching! TUE for Floyd was approved by NSAC.

[ADP02]

IV is not banned by nsac

First of all, read what RELOADED says about Torodal and that it will soon be banned ..... got the hint?

Secondly, according to USADA, Floyd volunteered to follow those rules.