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Originally posted by Reloaded View PostIts depends on many things , what does a judge give for ring generalship , Willie Pep won a round and never threw a punch , there is so much more to scoring a boxing match than solely landed numbers , connected punches are only half the story , what of defence , ring generalship , effective aggression .
Now you explain the science part of scoring , a simple answer will do .
Assuming both were equals in ring generalship which is the science of taking command of the center of the ring, and assuming they are also both equals in effective aggression and parrying defense.
What is left is my question for Russ. Don't alter it. Answer it in the premise I gave you. Who wins, the one who landed the more cleaner and effective blows or the one who landed less cleaner and effective blows?
Go!Last edited by Spoon23; 02-03-2016, 12:29 AM.
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Originally posted by Russ. View PostYea, nothing changed since your last post. Still a floyd victory. Not changing anytime soon no matter how much you blabber in your little thread, thats the funny part .
That's your rebuttal regarding this thread. Wow such a genius you are hehe your millionth post and still nothing to squeeze in the puny brain of yours. That's really it??
Nothing to substantiate it?
Sigh..Lame as always. Way to argue buddy!
I help you out. Floyd officially won.
But did he really?
Nope! This thread just shyits that bogus win over and over hahaha
# next time bring your A game buddy. You suck at defending your boyfriend.
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Originally posted by Spoon23 View PostThat's it??
That's your rebuttal regarding this thread. Wow such a genius you are hehe your millionth post and still nothing to squeeze in the puny brain of yours. That's really it??
Nothing to substantiate it?
Sigh..Lame as always. Way to argue buddy!
I help you out. Floyd officially won.
But did he really?
Nope! This thread just shyits that bogus win over and over hahaha
# next time bring your A game buddy. You suck at defending your boyfriend.
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Originally posted by Russ. View PostYup, still a win. And still nobody believes you. Except for maybe 1 or 2 other pacfans on this forum. Keep going this is like comedy at this point. You do realize you are the laughing stock of this forum dont you? or do you think ppl are actually debating with you? lol
Enjoy my thread.
Actually facts are more powerful than a measly record. Rigged fights will always be remembered more than the actual score cards.
Floyd will always be remembered as a man who exploited the loopholes of the corrupt system.
IVS exploitation check
Maximum clinching to prevent an opponent from countering check
Referee allowing him to clinch at all times check
Paid of drug agency 150k check
Nsac giving a TUE 3 weeks after the fight check
Pac wasn't allowed legal taradol shots while Floyd didn't inform illegal use of IVS and later was allowed TUE check
Judges far-out scoring check
In other words, this is what Floyd will be remembered. A man who took boxing hostage and followed his bidding in every turn.
This is Floyd's legacy. Tainted and full of asterisk. More powerful than any record. Tsk tsk tsk..
The worst part is a rioded up Floyd lost to an injured Fighter hahaha
The truth.
Then come back for more ass whopping!Last edited by Spoon23; 02-03-2016, 12:41 AM.
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Originally posted by Spoon23 View PostSpam away buddy. Spam away. You suck hahaha!
Enjoy my thread.
Actually facts are more powerful than a measly record. Rigged fights will always be remembered more than the actual score cards.
Floyd will always be remembered as a man who exploited the loopholes of the corrupt system.
IVS exploitation check
Maximum clinching to prevent an opponent from countering check
Referee allowing him to clinch at all times check
Paid of drug agency 150k check
Nsac giving a TUE 3 weeks after the fight check
Pac wasn't allowed legal taradol shots while Floyd didn't inform illegal use of IVS and later was allowed TUE check
Judges far-out scoring check
In other words, this is what Floyd will be remembered. A man who took boxing hostage and followed his bidding in every turn.
This is Floyd's legacy. Tainted and full of asterisk. More powerful than any record. Tsk tsk tsk..
The worst part is a rioded up Floyd lost to an injured Fighter hahaha
The truth.
Then come back for more ass whopping!
good luck with all that....
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Originally posted by Russ. View Post
good luck with all that....
Oh well, since you brought out your self destruct card. The card that exposes you as a nonsensical teenager who can't make an adult rebuttal for the millionth time lol
It only means one thing.. The "did not read card" as Floyd loves to bring out as well, is the card when all else fails bring out this card. The card that even if floyd looks ****** it's alright, since it's the only way to look like a ****** and save himself for more humiliation hahaha!
Also known as self ownage card.
This is you! Hahaha
Last edited by Spoon23; 02-03-2016, 02:32 AM.
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Originally posted by Spoon23 View PostClean and effective punching is first and foremost. Now since you butted in,
Assuming both were equals in ring generalship which is the science of taking command of the center of the ring, and assuming they are also both equals in effective aggression and parrying defense.
What is left is my question for Russ. Don't alter it. Answer it in the premise I gave you. Who wins, the one who landed the more cleaner and effective blows or the one who landed less cleaner and effective blows?
Go!
Ring generalship can never be equal in a fight that is a chess match , both fighters are known inside and out , their styles their fitness level everything about we all have seen , Floyd changed the way Manny fought because Floyd controlled the distance , Manny is setting traps while Floyd is a step ahead at every move , Manny is not his usual offense because this is Floyd Mayweather not Algieri , Being an official judge how many points would one subconsciously take away from Manny as you watch him not being allowed to execute anything , the terminator is looking like an impostor , now why is that happening , you think a judge is not aware of who is controlling this fight .
This is why the minute you ever have got to revert to slo mo to define a boxing match winner you know you lost , its not just touches its so many other aspects , Ring Generalship , Control , Defense , Effective Offence are all calculated differently by different judges and 99% of people that watched the fight scored the win to Floyd by a good clear margin , because everybody could see Manny was lost and couldnt do anything thats why he lost .
The trouble with Floyd is he is too good and the average hating halfwit dont understand what he actually does , how he shuts great fighters down with distance , the only times Floyd is forced to fight in the trenches he allows it and even states before hand he will go toe to toe , he did both times with Cotto and Maidana , they didnt force nothing Floyd allowed it , proof is the second Maidana fight , Floyd boxed his ears off , when Floyd controls range its game over .
Floyd was the ring general against Manny and not by a little by a lot , Floyd was the guy controlling the way the fight would be fought , Floyd was Floyd it was Manny who was not allowed to be Manny , any fool that knows anything about boxing knows it .
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Originally posted by Reloaded View PostWho says what is clean effective define it , your video is mostly about grazes payed or grazes not paid clear missus and ineffective punching , what is the exact point a punch is clean effective , can you clarify exactly where a punch is scored and when it isnt , is that split second in time measurable or a pin point reference or the opinion of the viewer like how long is a piece of string ?
Ring generalship can never be equal in a fight that is a chess match , both fighters are known inside and out , their styles their fitness level everything about we all have seen , Floyd changed the way Manny fought because Floyd controlled the distance , Manny is setting traps while Floyd is a step ahead at every move , Manny is not his usual offense because this is Floyd Mayweather not Algieri , Being an official judge how many points would one subconsciously take away from Manny as you watch him not being allowed to execute anything , the terminator is looking like an impostor , now why is that happening , you think a judge is not aware of who is controlling this fight .
This is why the minute you ever have got to revert to slo mo to define a boxing match winner you know you lost , its not just touches its so many other aspects , Ring Generalship , Control , Defense , Effective Offence are all calculated differently by different judges and 99% of people that watched the fight scored the win to Floyd by a good clear margin , because everybody could see Manny was lost and couldnt do anything thats why he lost .
The trouble with Floyd is he is too good and the average hating halfwit dont understand what he actually does , how he shuts great fighters down with distance , the only times Floyd is forced to fight in the trenches he allows it and even states before hand he will go toe to toe , he did both times with Cotto and Maidana , they didnt force nothing Floyd allowed it , proof is the second Maidana fight , Floyd boxed his ears off , when Floyd controls range its game over .
Floyd was the ring general against Manny and not by a little by a lot , Floyd was the guy controlling the way the fight would be fought , Floyd was Floyd it was Manny who was not allowed to be Manny , any fool that knows anything about boxing knows it .
Answer my question based on my premise. Don't worry. I'll come back with a long one. Just answer my question first.
Here it is again. Comprehend and absorb.
Clean and effective punching is first and foremost. Now since you butted in,
Assuming both were equals in ring generalship which is the science of taking command of the center of the ring, and assuming they are also both equals in effective aggression and parrying defense.
What is left is my question for Russ. Don't alter it. Answer it in the premise I gave you. Who wins, the one who landed the more cleaner and effective blows or the one who landed less cleaner and effective blows?
It's a simple question.
Go!Last edited by Spoon23; 02-03-2016, 02:34 AM.
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Originally posted by Spoon23 View PostYou really are a ******ed Floyd fan hahaha
Oh well, since you brought out your self destruct card. The card that exposes you as a nonsensical teenager who can't make an adult rebuttal for the millionth time lol
It only means one thing.. The "did not read card" as Floyd loves to bring out as well, is the card when all else fails bring out this card. The card that even if floyd looks ****** it's alright, since it's the only way to look like a ****** and save himself for more humiliation hahaha!
Also known as self ownage card.
This is you! Hahaha
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