Top Ten Journeymen.....know what a Journeyman is?

[Chups]

My vote goes to Bazooka Limon.

[JAB5239]

I read Larry Holmes autobiography and he talks about a fighter from the 70's named Roy Williams. Both he and Williams were sparring partners for ali at the same time. Holmes sys in his book that if it wasn't for bad management Roy would have been one of the most talked about fighters of that era.

There were two really funny stories he tells in his book, about Williams. One of them was, after describing how mean Williams was, about being on the same card as Roy and coming out to cheer him on since they were both in the same camp. Holmes tells about yelling for Roy, trying to show his support, when Williams turns to him in the middle of the round and says "shut the **** up!!".

The other one was Williams feeling Ali shortchanged him on some money owed. Him and Ali had words that ended with Roy calling "*****", "******", and other derogatory remarks. Ali didn't take kindly to thios so he set up a 10 round sparring session the next day. For 10 round Williams gave as good as he took and just kept on with the name calling every round.
Well, Ali still wasn't satisfied and wanted to teach Williams a lesson and set up another 10 rounds for the next day. Same thing as the first time. Williams kept up the verbal abuse and gave as good as he got again. When it was over Ali had had enough. He gave Williams the money owed and told him to hit the road.

Now I'd be lying if I said I knew more about Williams then what I read in the Holmes book. But going by that and looking at his record.....this guy must have been one helluva scary "journeyman".

Anybody know anything more about him?

[TheGreatA]

I don't think Roy Williams was really a journeyman, he had a pretty good record.

He almost got a win over Earnie Shavers that would've surely made him a top ranked heavyweight contender but Earnie made one of the most amazing comebacks of all time in the 10th and last round to stop Williams.

[TheGreatA]

Archie Moore, I'm not gunna say he could beat any champion even if he put all his tools together but the guy was a hell of a fighter...

Journeyman thats rarely mentioned is the Ol' Mongoose Archie Moore....I wouldn't say he could beat any champion but he had the smarts and heart of a true champion....

now I got to go back a page to see what Yogi's talking about with marciano

[marciano1952]

yeah I Guess that guy donset know much about history of this Sport

[Guest]

Sammy Sparkman
Emmanuel Augustus
Marcus Rhode
Garing Lane
Reggie Strickland
and now Carl Daniels
are the dictionary definition of journeyman, ready to battle anyone, anytime.

[mcentepede]

Bramble was a very good fighter, he was relatively unknown when he beat Boom Boom Mancini twice and then was a top lightweight for at least 5 years after that. He had rasta dreads and was a tough cookie, but he wasn't invincible or anything, but he was fun to watch. Emanuel Augustus is the best guy rite now for the criteria you're talking about, he gets robbed alot, and always gives a good fight, don't let his resume deceive you fellas.

[AztecWanker]

last time ill say this.....omar sheika is the best ever!

sheika>johnson>jones>ruiz>holyfield>tyson>holmes>ali

[KostyaTszyu44]

[QUOTE=RockyMarcianofan00;1696112]Earnie Shavers...If his chin was better he would be able to go with Foreman better IMO...

Archie Moore, I'm not gunna say he could beat any champion even if he put all his tools together but the guy was a hell of a fighter...[/QUOTE]

moore wasnt no journeyman you jackass ,isnt he ranked in the top 20-30 all time p4p??

EDIT: ring mag raked him #14 out of best 80 fighters of the last 80 years

[1SILVA]

Best Journeyman

Here are some of the best journeymen I have seen:
Mickey Ward
Emanuel Augustus
Randy Cobb
Scott Ledoux
Ross Purrity
Willy Wise
Harold Brazier
Willie Rodriguez
James Tillis
Andrew Council
Freddie Roach
Caveman Lee