What was RJJ's best performance?

[Rusty Tromboni]

clear duck, ok, if thats what you need to do.

You couldn't make the effort to post a clear cohesive thought. I wasn't gonna guess what you were trying to say.

The point is, athletes in the modern era use PEDs, whether they get caught or not. Certainly recent testing has made PED abuse much more difficult (though, not impossible), but for decades it went uninhibited.

Klitchko, didn't depend solely on PEDs for his success. Klitchko also didn't fold like a ***** when his chin got checked. There's no drugs for that.

[DreamFighter]

You couldn't make the effort to post a clear cohesive thought. I wasn't gonna guess what you were trying to say.

so u did understand , you dumb *** obvious duk now.

The point is, athletes in the modern era use PEDs, whether they get caught or not. Certainly recent testing has made PED abuse much more difficult (though, not impossible), but for decades it went uninhibited.

Klitchko, didn't depend solely on PEDs for his success. Klitchko also didn't fold like a ***** when his chin got checked. There's no drugs for that.

no drug for you realising that Klitsckos best win was equivalent to one of Jones pre-title contender opponents, but I'm not complaining.

ah thats why vitali didnt fold ok.

As I said, both vitali and roy got caught once usng, they are both equally to blame. Deal with this fact, dont duck it again.

[Rusty Tromboni]

so u did understand , you dumb *** obvious duk now.



no drug for you realising that Klitsckos best win was equivalent to one of Jones pre-title contender opponents, but I'm not complaining.

ah thats why vitali didnt fold ok.

As I said, both vitali and roy got caught once usng, they are both equally to blame. Deal with this fact, dont duck it again.

Vitali was clearly more technically sound and had a superior chin.

Jones' style was based on being explosive. We see in MMA how much more fighters whose style/success is determined by their being explosive benefit from PED usage.

Look at Anderson Silva and Vitor Belfort. Their careers were virtually non-existent when they weren't doping. But when they had unreined access to PEDs (and subpar competition) they looked other-worldly. It almost seemed fake the way they dispatched of their opponents. Alistair Overeem and Johnny Hendricks also come to mind... when they're off the rocket fuel they're nothing more than human punching bags. They go from championship material to guys who don't even look like pro-fighters.

PEDs help everyone who use them (correctly). I'm not dis*****g that. And if the rules say you shouldn't use them, then you don't use them. Vitali also broke the rules. That's wrong, but it's not the point. He just clearly was not as dependent on PEDs for his success as Jones was.

Really the key to Vitali's success was the sound fundamentals which the Soviet style provided being paired w/ Steward's genius. Steward had a great way of making tall men fight tall, and enhance their advantages. Vitali was a supremely polished product. And pretty much the antithesis of Jones.

[rudy]

For me it was versus James Toney. Toney was one the best fighters in the world at the time.

Yeah i was pissed that he beat my idol.

[DreamFighter]

Vitali was clearly more technically sound

you might be deaf if you think thats more sound.

and had a superior chin.

why not compare the chin of a MW to HW, when you not got another leg to stand on.

nice one.