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    #11
    Spinks would’ve blown Tony tucker out. He was a wounded deer in the middle of the road & Tyson was the Mack truck rolling down Highway. Once again Ray Corso is right.

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      #12
      First of all the country is in good shape, second of all i paid to see that fight on closed circuit Tv at the Garden State Art center, now known as the PNC art center in Holmdel Nj, and I got news for you nobody was complaining how quick the fight was, nobody carries fighters, you can say what you want about Greg Haugen but he had a solid chin , that’s why JC couldn’t get him out quick. I guess Holyfield carried Buster Douglas too

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        #13
        --- Love mike spinks to death, but he'd never beat the Tucker of that era.

        Spoon and Williams had already whoop fat Lar who used to be skinny to no credit.

        Spinks got the credit because fat Lar refused to fight the WBA champs and the abandoned WBC belt Tucker picked up.

        Timing is everything in life and boxing and spinks had a damned fine run at the top, but his demise was entirely predictable.

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          #14
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
          --- seen plenty of fighters look fearful and win...poster boy being Lennox Lewis.

          No need to go full blown schoolboy psychpop when the reasons are obvious and documented
          If you are addressing my post then quote me. Especially if you are going to be snarky.

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            #15
            --- Didn't mean to make you so fearful. I'll try to be more delicate with your feelings in the future.

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              #16
              In retrospect, Michael was in over his head. Tyson had all the ability to beat Spinks, and Mike was coming into his prime, if not there already. Spinks definitely had some fear going into the ring, knowing what would happen.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Dynamite76 View Post
                In retrospect, Michael was in over his head. Tyson had all the ability to beat Spinks, and Mike was coming into his prime, if not there already. Spinks definitely had some fear going into the ring, knowing what would happen.
                Exactly. Spinks was past his best and past his best weight. Tyson was peaking early and it showed from the moment they signed the fight.

                I doubt Spinks could have beat any version of Tyson pre incarceration. But it certainly wasn't happening that night.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                  Exactly. Spinks was past his best and past his best weight. Tyson was peaking early and it showed from the moment they signed the fight.

                  I doubt Spinks could have beat any version of Tyson pre incarceration. But it certainly wasn't happening that night.
                  Sometimes I wonder, if after 31 years, Micheal Spinks thinks it was worth it, 91 seconds and all lol.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Dynamite76 View Post
                    Sometimes I wonder, if after 31 years, Micheal Spinks thinks it was worth it, 91 seconds and all lol.
                    How much did he make again?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
                      How much did he make again?
                      I think Spinks's hourly rate was a touch better than $148,000 a second; good work if you can get it.

                      A $13.5 million guarantee but I am not sure if he got a percentage, likely not. (Tyson $20 million)

                      The mean PPV price was $45, so the fight to watch, cost around 49 cents per second. One poster says he and his friends were happy to pay it; they had a great time. (I guess some men can get-off in 91 seconds.)

                      ***** put up (bought the fight for) 11 million; and HBO 16 million, which of course only covers 27 of the 33.5 guarantee. I can't find who covered the rest, probably some bank.

                      How much a fight makes is always hard to tell; people have motivation to exaggerate 'the gate.'

                      But in the end it is likely the fight 'made money.'

                      Whether ***** got a share of the PPV or not, is difficult to discern. - Certainly the live gate and all its ******** residuals were *****'s to garner.*

                      (* Here ***** was at a disadvantage, at the time New Jersey disallowed sports book betting and ***** was unable to gain from that, the way the Vegas casinos could.)

                      It may have for *****, at some level, ended up a short term loss, but ***** wasn't necessarily using the fight to make money, instead used it as a loss leader to promote not only the Taj Mahal Casino, but ***** Industries in general. In the end, short term success or not, ***** likely got from it what he was hoping.

                      How HBO did is always a mystery to me; trying to understand how to measure guarantees, costs, and revenue shares against PPV buys and long-term subscription gains makes for some complicated math. But obviously they know what they are doing.

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