How in the hell does two supposed top p4p fighters get ranked like that when neither fighter has even cracked 20 fights????? And one of them is 37 ffs!!!!! If this is the new norm in boxing, then the sport has truly become a laughable joke and is indeed suffering it's death gasps.
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Talent and both have beaten top level fighters in their short careers albeit seldom.
Rigondeaux beat Donaire who was P4P #3 so I guess that has to put him into consideration?
Lomachenko has beaten some good top guys but no P4P fighters.
I guess with their crazy Amateur records they were fast tracked and didn't have the usual building fights most pros do. Lomachenko fought for a world title in hos 2nd fight, won one by the 3rd I think?
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostTalent and both have beaten top level fighters in their short careers albeit seldom.
Rigondeaux beat Donaire who was P4P #3 so I guess that has to put him into consideration?
Lomachenko has beaten some good top guys but no P4P fighters.
I guess with their crazy Amateur records they were fast tracked and didn't have the usual building fights most pros do. Lomachenko fought for a world title in hos 2nd fight, won one by the 3rd I think?
The fact that anyone holding a belt could actually LOSE to someone fighting in their THIRD fight tells me the sport has truly reached it's nadir.
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Even when that person has 400 amateur fights? These people turned pro when most people consider retiring. If they don't get fast tracked they don't go anywhere. Rounds are build up to build a fighter to it, if you have 400 am fights you have already built your tank. You already have ring experience. You need a couple fights to acclimate to the change from the am's then you should be in the deep end, as you are not inexperienced. Especially medal winners. For you this historical match would never happen, as they would both be busy wasting their time fighting people they are vastly superior to. Lomachenko made 1 bad pull on Salido and other than that has literally been leaps and bounds above his competition. Why do you want him going even slower lol.
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Originally posted by evets View PostEven when that person has 400 amateur fights? These people turned pro when most people consider retiring. If they don't get fast tracked they don't go anywhere. Rounds are build up to build a fighter to it, if you have 400 am fights you have already built your tank. You already have ring experience. You need a couple fights to acclimate to the change from the am's then you should be in the deep end, as you are not inexperienced. Especially medal winners. For you this historical match would never happen, as they would both be busy wasting their time fighting people they are vastly superior to. Lomachenko made 1 bad pull on Salido and other than that has literally been leaps and bounds above his competition. Why do you want him going even slower lol.
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Originally posted by StarshipTrooper View PostI'm sorry, but a bunch of amateur fights and four dollars should get you a latte at Starbucks. Ten fights into you're career and you should just now be graduating from 4 round prelims to 6 rounders. If they're fast tracking fighters like that the sport is truly doomed.
The fact that anyone holding a belt could actually LOSE to someone fighting in their THIRD fight tells me the sport has truly reached it's nadir.
But I do agree and he did lose his first attempt to a fading Salido, so, shows really.
Pete Rademacher the Olympic Gold Medalist fought for the title in his first fight. Got crushed off course but he did alright for abit.
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Originally posted by StarshipTrooper View PostAmateur fights are worthless prep for the pros. They're practically two different sports.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostI see your point for sure but also think if you had 300 amateur fights and two olympic golds then you aren't your average fighter turning pro.
But I do agree and he did lose his first attempt to a fading Salido, so, shows really.
Pete Rademacher the Olympic Gold Medalist fought for the title in his first fight. Got crushed off course but he did alright for abit.
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Originally posted by evets View PostThat's not the point of why boxers go from 4 to 12 progressively. Also why I said they need a few fights to acclimate to the pros as they can't carry their am style in. I would suggest you just drop boxing then as you clearly aren't a fan nor can you appreciate it if this is your thought process.
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Originally posted by StarshipTrooper View PostIt was expected that Rademacher would get crushed.....and the fight was pilloried as a farce well before fight night.
Just throwing a comparison in there.
Zora Foley whooped him too in the Amatuers and pro's.
Lomachenko and Rigondeaux are very talented fighters though.
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