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    Originally posted by kayjay View Post
    I lived way up in NE Philly until I was 17. I think Joey's trial was then end of line as far as gang publicity there went.
    Yea...NY/NJ was so consumed with its own mafia superstars that we were pretty much in the dark about Philly's cosa nostra scene. If I wasn't out in Philly for that time I doubt I would've ever know about Philly's crime family or Joey Merlino. He def seemed like a lively character though.

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      Originally posted by kayjay View Post
      I don't understand how people can watch these videos and compare the fighters to modern ones. I know I sound like dino, but the footwork is terrible, there is no defenses, punches are telegraphed, etc. So it seems to this very humble observer.
      If I didn't love you I would bury in red karma.

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        Originally posted by Scrappy Diggs View Post
        Yea...NY/NJ was so consumed with its own mafia superstars that we were pretty much in the dark about Philly's cosa nostra scene. If I wasn't out in Philly for that time I doubt I would've ever know about Philly's crime family or Joey Merlino. He def seemed like a lively character though.
        His celebrity might have been local, but he was huge. In Philly no one gives a **** about NY, and remember about half of NJ is Philly too. Before Merlino was Scarfo, who was maybe more powerful but was a darker, less charismatic figure.

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          Originally posted by CletusVanDamme View Post
          If I didn't love you I would bury in red karma.
          Tell me what I said ain't true. The fighting styele of that part of the century is plain crude. I can't enjoy any fights from before about the mid 30's

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            Originally posted by kayjay View Post
            In Philly no one gives a **** about NY.
            Well I know firsthand that a lot of people in Philly don't like New York or New Yorkers, but to say that they don't give a **** about NY on the basis of the mafiosos would be pretty naive. If someone is in to mafia figures and the history of it, then you can't possibly overlook New York. New York is where the most influential and legendary gangsters came from. I mean on the scale, Nicky Scarfo and Joey Merlino are midgets compared to John Gotti and Carlo Gambino.

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              Originally posted by kayjay View Post
              Tell me what I said ain't true. The fighting styele of that part of the century is plain crude. I can't enjoy any fights from before about the mid 30's
              I just prefer Boxing before the 30s for the most part. I mostly watch the 70s and below. Guys like Battling Nelson were crude but the were tough as whit leather and that is why I prefer the oldtimers. Guys like Leonard, Gans and Ross were very technically sound for their times. They were hard men and that is what I admire guys like Saddler, Zale, Ketchel, Walker, Greb were tough enough to fight in any era.

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                Primo Carnera was the Mafias puppet

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                  Originally posted by Jimmy The Gent View Post
                  Primo Carnera was the Mafias puppet
                  Supposedly. But he wasn't the only one...

                  The mafia corrupted the **** out of boxing in the 40s and 50s...

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                    Originally posted by Scrappy Diggs View Post
                    Yea...NY/NJ was so consumed with its own mafia superstars that we were pretty much in the dark about Philly's cosa nostra scene. If I wasn't out in Philly for that time I doubt I would've ever know about Philly's crime family or Joey Merlino. He def seemed like a lively character though.
                    An exaggeration, yes. Sure New Yorkers have a wider-reaching celebrity. I wans't denying that. I was just saying that Philly had its own thing.

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                      Carlo Gambino, Aniello Dellacroce, Albert Anastasia, and Paul Castellano are the most intriguing characters to me...Anastasia was just a straight ruthless maniac.

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