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    Felix Trinidad vs Oscar De La Hoya 2

    I want the answer to 2 things here - First of all why wasn't there a rematch (if any fight ever needed one it was this) and what do you guys think would've happened if there was. The first fight was a let down, but I think DLH should've won.

    It was strange how the fight turned out to say the least, but in a funny way with there not being a rematch neither guy's stock really went down (Tito was still undefeated, and Oscar was still viewed as undefeated for the most part). What stopped the 2nd fight from happening though? Was there just not a lot of demand for it because the 1st fight overall was a disappointment? Did neither guy really want it, or was it just a combination of a whole bunch of different things?

    As for how the rematch would've gone, I'm a big Trinidad fan and I really don't like Oscar so it's hard for me to say this, but I think Oscar would've won a competitive decision. I can see Tito hurting him a few times, but he had a good chin and overall was a more complete fighter. Especially when it comes to the jab and being able to move better. Tito would've had to stop him in order to beat him, Oscar knew this which is why he never really got into exchanges with him.

    What do you think?
    Last edited by JK1700; 07-31-2017, 03:19 PM.
    Tags: hoya, trinidad
    #2
    Don King(Trinidad) and Bob Arum(Oscar). Vinegar and Baking soda, just don't mix well.

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      #3
      Originally posted by TBear View Post
      Don King(Trinidad) and Bob Arum(Oscar). Vinegar and Baking soda, just don't mix well.
      LOL. I remember hearing that Bob Arum alone made more money for this fight than both fighters did. I thought that was the most likely thing, sure they could've came together and done it again, but the way the first fight ended it was best not to from a business standpoint. Without the rematch both guys could go on basically still undefeated and a rematch would've changed that for one of them.
      Last edited by JK1700; 07-23-2017, 06:27 AM.

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        #4
        Originally posted by TBear View Post
        Don King(Trinidad) and Bob Arum(Oscar). Vinegar and Baking soda, just don't mix well.
        Let's say they had a rematch at 154, how do you see it going? I think Tito clearly stayed at 147 too long, whereas Oscar stuck around 147 for a bit longer after they fought. I think 154 would've helped him but it's hard for me to see him beating Oscar despite that. In a toe-to-toe battle he wins but Oscar wouldn't do it.

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          #5
          Agreed. Although Trinidad was ranked as high as number 2 pound for pound after he hit super welterweight, it's still hard to envision him having any real success against Oscar in a rematch if Oscar decided to stay on the outside and not run for the last 3 rounds.

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            #6
            In those days...when men fought...it wasnt about money as much as glory. If you beat someone...you challenged yourself by moving onto the next great fighter. Rematches are the new cash model...a blueprint laid down by Bob Arum and about to be rehashed by Eddie Hearn.

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              #7
              If my memory serves...

              Felix would always demand a rematch.
              Bur Oscar was scared. Thats why it never happened.

              The "homeboy" would have put the cross dresser to sleep in a rematch and he knew it.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Johnny Steele View Post
                If my memory serves...

                Felix would always demand a rematch.
                Bur Oscar was scared. Thats why it never happened.

                The "homeboy" would have put the cross dresser to sleep in a rematch and he knew it.
                Really? Want to provide sources on that?

                Oscar v Tito was the biggest non hw ppv at that particular time and wha twas supposed to be a competitive fight became a dud because Oscar was several levels above Tito. NOt just 1 or 2 but more like 5 or 6. Better jab, better hooks, better movement, better ring IQ...better everything.

                All I know is, Tito killed the rematch by moving up in weight twice in the span of time Oscar was still at 147. No idea how that translates to Tito wanting the rematch.

                Anyway, everyone knows who won that fight.

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                  #9
                  I thought Oscar won the first fight even though he coasted the last few rounds. I also think he would win a rematch. Oscar would make some adjustments and not take the championship rounds off. His speed had Felix offset the first fight and he wouldn't stand in front of him which is where Trinidad excelled. Jmo.

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                    #10
                    As I recall it Tito had plans to move up to 154 BEFORE the ODLH fight & ODLH wanted a rematch at 147 thats why there was no rematch. I'm sure the fact the fight wasn't very entertaining didn't help either guy in feeling it made THAT much sense to push it towards happening either. If ODLH had been willing ready to move up to 154 (he eventually did, but it was 2 years later & after Tito had already moved up to 160 & was on his way to losing to Bhop) I think we'd have seen a rematch.

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