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    #21
    There are a LOT more deserving middleweights than Leonard, Duran, and Trinidad.

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      #22
      I only named a few; there's still room for about 40 more.

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        #23
        so brassangel, when is it gonna get started?

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          #24
          Given the low participation from the spectators (since I wanted this to be a viewer driven tournament), I can't say I am certain as to when it will get started. Hopefully soon.

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            #25
            Maybe some posters aren't as confident in their knowledge of middleweights as they are of the "glamor division".



            Ps.....That's a challenge boys. C'mon, let's do this thing!! Some of the best fighters who ever lived weighed around 160.

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              #26
              Let's do it; I'll even cut it to 32. Top 32 at 160 lbs.

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                #27
                Brass, are you looking for some ratings or something like that?

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                  #28
                  If so, here's a quick ranking off the top of my head;

                  1. Harry Greb
                  2. Sugar Ray Robinson
                  3. Carlos Monzon
                  4. Marvin Hagler
                  5. Stanley Ketchel
                  6. Bob Fitzsimmons
                  7. Mickey Walker
                  8. Charley Burley
                  9. Jake LaMotta
                  10. Sam Langford ***
                  11. Bernard Hopkins
                  12. Tony Zale
                  13. Tiger Flowers
                  14. Marcel Cerdan
                  15. Gene Fullmer
                  16. Freddie Steele
                  17. **** Tiger
                  18. Kid McCoy
                  19. Holman Williams
                  20. Tommy Ryan
                  21. Roy Jones
                  22. Mike Gibbons
                  23. Non. Jack Dempsey
                  24. Billy Papke
                  25. Emile Griffith
                  26. Frank Klaus
                  27. Sugar Ray Leonard
                  28. Lloyd Marshall
                  29. Joey Giardello
                  30. Nino Benvenuti
                  31. Rodrigo Valdez
                  32. Rocky Graziano

                  *** tough to rank...down on the list on acomplishments at middleweight, but seeing as this is a tournament of mythical matchups, he's going to be very tough to beat.
                  Last edited by Yogi; 05-13-2006, 04:11 PM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Yogi
                    If so, here's a quick ranking off the top of my head;

                    1. Harry Greb
                    2. Sugar Ray Robinson
                    3. Carlos Monzon
                    4. Marvin Hagler
                    5. Stanley Ketchel
                    6. Bob Fitzsimmons
                    7. Mickey Walker
                    8. Charley Burley
                    9. Jake LaMotta
                    10. Sam Langford ***
                    11. Bernard Hopkins
                    12. Tony Zale
                    13. Tiger Flowers
                    14. Marcel Cerdan
                    15. Gene Fullmer
                    16. Freddie Steele
                    17. **** Tiger
                    18. Kid McCoy
                    19. Holman Williams
                    20. Tommy Ryan
                    21. Roy Jones
                    22. Mike Gibbons
                    23. Non. Jack Dempsey
                    24. Billy Papke
                    25. Emile Griffith
                    26. Frank Klaus
                    27. Sugar Ray Leonard
                    28. Lloyd Marshall
                    29. Joey Giardello
                    30. Nino Benvenuti
                    31. Rodrigo Valdez
                    32. Rocky Graziano

                    *** tough to rank...down on the list on acomplishments at middleweight, but seeing as this is a tournament of mythical matchups, he's going to be very tough to beat.
                    Damn. I was gonna donate my contributing order/ranking; but that's pretty solid....though, I would put Monzon at 1 and Greb at 4...few other differences of opinion; but nothing worth bickering about on this thread.

                    I'm pumped for this...hope it doesn't begin 'till Monday,though.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by K-DOGG
                      Damn. I was gonna donate my contributing order/ranking; but that's pretty solid....though, I would put Monzon at 1 and Greb at 4...few other differences of opinion; but nothing worth bickering about on this thread.

                      I'm pumped for this...hope it doesn't begin 'till Monday,though.
                      Yeah, there's probably plenty of room for differences of opinions on that ranking, because I literally came up with it in the time it took me to write out that post...I do sorta wished I could've taken it a little deeper, though, as I would've liked to have seen a couple of my old favourites gain participation in this, Bennie Briscoe & Vito Antuofermo, as well as some other guys like Panama Joe Gans, Ken Overlin, Ceferino Garcia, James Toney, Les Darcy, Carmen Basilio, etc.

                      I almost didn't remember Rodrigo Valdez, though, and had to edit it to include him (had Gans at 31, but took him out)...Another one of my favourites and I really do think he belongs somewhere on that list (probably a bit higher than the spot I gave him, actually).

                      P.S. Just for the sake of gaining a consensus, you should also come up with a ranking of who you think should be included.
                      Last edited by Yogi; 05-13-2006, 04:50 PM.

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