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    Who had the greatest skill?

    Mayweather Jr, Willie Pep, Duran, Sugar Ray Robinson, or Sugar Ray Leonard?

    I think it was Pep, because its alot easier to look skillful when you have a range speed advantage power or chin advantage.

    Pep had none of those in the great quan****** the others had.

    Also do you think Mayweather is more skillful than Pep since skill is something that may accumulate and improve with time like knowledge does?

    #2
    Of course it was Floyd.

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      #3
      Pep, Robinson, Duran and Leonard are all ATG's Mayweather was a defensive boxer with counters first and no power at Welter. A very good defense boxer who lived off his back foot to bore the boxing fans along with cherry picking his championship opponents. Many times matching up with champions from lower weight class with very few or no bouts at welter.

      Robinson is TBE and ATG of all greats. Theres no denying this its on film, and the longevity with success that lasted 25 years as the number one draw in the world is unfounded.

      All of the above in a p4p fantasy match would beat lil' Floyd, hell I doubt Floyd could even land on Pep. Leonard would KO him late, Duran would just pound him into submission and Robinson would KO him in 2rds.

      Mayweather brings NO Power to the ring, when your in with the greats you need some pop to remain respectful and honest, he has none!
      Very good boxer but defense alone only works when your the promoter, matchmaker, manager, trainer and boxer.......which he was!

      Ray.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Ray Corso View Post
        Pep, Robinson, Duran and Leonard are all ATG's Mayweather was a defensive boxer with counters first and no power at Welter. A very good defense boxer who lived off his back foot to bore the boxing fans along with cherry picking his championship opponents. Many times matching up with champions from lower weight class with very few or no bouts at welter.

        Robinson is TBE and ATG of all greats. Theres no denying this its on film, and the longevity with success that lasted 25 years as the number one draw in the world is unfounded.

        All of the above in a p4p fantasy match would beat lil' Floyd, hell I doubt Floyd could even land on Pep. Leonard would KO him late, Duran would just pound him into submission and Robinson would KO him in 2rds.

        Mayweather brings NO Power to the ring, when your in with the greats you need some pop to remain respectful and honest, he has none!
        Very good boxer but defense alone only works when your the promoter, matchmaker, manager, trainer and boxer.......which he was!

        Ray.
        What a surprise!

        Who would of thought you'd pick ALL of your old favourites against Mayweather!!

        It's no secret I can't stand Mayweather almost as much as I can't stand that other Clay fella you like, but to say he was not the most elitist skilled would be a complete insult..

        Ray Robinson TBE is he?

        Why don't you check out that guys "defense" and compare it to Floyds ??

        Yeah right!

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          #5
          Clay===Racists!

          Easy boy, don't get ahead of yourself trying to goat folks into playing with you!

          Theres no need to discuss TBE vs lil' Floyd its ridiculous!
          Got any pics when you used to be 6'2" 225lbs? hahahahaha............


          that's just to funny.......

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            #6
            Originally posted by Elroy1 View Post
            What a surprise!

            Who would of thought you'd pick ALL of your old favourites against Mayweather!!

            It's no secret I can't stand Mayweather almost as much as I can't stand that other Clay fella you like, but to say he was not the most elitist skilled would be a complete insult..

            Ray Robinson TBE is he?

            Why don't you check out that guys "defense" and compare it to Floyds ??

            Yeah right!
            I prefer to compare achievements. Like completely dominating welterweight and winning the middleweight title several times. If he got hit more than Floyd, it's only because he fought everyone, including the best in their prime, not just the ones he hand picked like Floyd. Anyone can look good when you get to choose who you fight and when.

            Who would have thought you'd bash the boxers of old, just because they didn't compete in your lifetime. You remind me of a young sci-fi fan who thinks sci-fi movies weren't any good until the original Star Wars in 1977, completely disregarding films like Logan's Run, The original Time Machine and War of the Worlds. You're a contrarian and a hater who always goes against the tide, so he can always claim he's smarter than everyone else and too hip for the room. Sell ****** some place else. We're all stocked up here. Nobody here is buying your drivel.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Elroy1 View Post
              Ray Robinson TBE is he?

              Why don't you check out that guys "defense" and compare it to Floyds ??

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                #8
                Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
                I prefer to compare achievements. Like completely dominating welterweight and winning the middleweight title several times. If he got hit more than Floyd, it's only because he fought everyone, including the best in their prime, not just the ones he hand picked like Floyd. Anyone can look good when you get to choose who you fight and when.

                Who would have thought you'd bash the boxers of old, just because they didn't compete in your lifetime. You remind me of a young sci-fi fan who thinks sci-fi movies weren't any good until the original Star Wars in 1977, completely disregarding films like Logan's Run, The original Time Machine and War of the Worlds. You're a contrarian and a hater who always goes against the tide, so he can always claim he's smarter than everyone else and too hip for the room. Sell ****** some place else. We're all stocked up here. Nobody here is buying your drivel.
                "If he got hit more than Floyd it's because he fought everyone"

                No he got hit more than Floyd because defensively he's no where near as good as Floyd. Ray Robinson is a better fighter than Mayweather but defensively he had holes that Mayweather doesn't have, that's why he got hit more.

                Saying "Anyone can look good when they chose who they fight and when" and linking that to Mayweather's dominance is just ******. If anyone can do it why is he the only one that's done it?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                  "If he got hit more than Floyd it's because he fought everyone"

                  No he got hit more than Floyd because defensively he's no where near as good as Floyd. Ray Robinson is a better fighter than Mayweather but defensively he had holes that Mayweather doesn't have, that's why he got hit more.

                  Saying "Anyone can look good when they chose who they fight and when" and linking that to Mayweather's dominance is just ******. If anyone can do it why is he the only one that's done it?
                  bruh i dont think floyd wants a crusty old ass dude dangling off his nuts 24/7

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Last Round Baby View Post
                    bruh i dont think floyd wants a crusty old ass dude dangling off his nuts 24/7
                    This wasn't funny the first time you said it and nothing has changed the numerous times since.

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