Who is the best hooker in boxing history?

[juggernaut666]

What a load of ****ing rubbish you talk...Frazier broke Chuvalo's eye-socket with a left hook, he smashed Quarry to pieces with his left hook. Frazier physically destroyed Muhammad Ali with his left hook in Mamilla... and here is you talking ****ing Tommy Morrison, who beat no ****er ffs.

And Tyson nearly killed Marvis Frazier in 30 seconds flat because he stood right in front of him and had little to offer as chuvalo or quarry would have,,you really dont know your boxing,to think Frazier over Tyson or Morrison ? you said I posted a pile of rubbish yet it was about Tyson anyway not Morrison which I didn't give a reason ,until the comment down below so you can further your boxing education???

[Scott9945]

And Tyson nearly killed Marvis Frazier in 30 seconds flat because he stood right in front of him and had little to offer as chuvalo or quarry would have,,you really dont know your boxing,to think Frazier over Tyson or Morrison ?

Chuvalo and Quarry were far superior to Marvis Frazier. And Frazier would have battered Tommy Morrison.

[Rockin']

Robin Givens, she made the most for a single 'trick' in history.

[juggernaut666]

Chuvalo and Quarry were far superior to Marvis Frazier. And Frazier would have battered Tommy Morrison.

Highly doubt that Marvis had actual footwork and has a win over a 6'5 Smith who hits way harder than Chuvalo or Quarry..it doesn't even matter im not comparing Marvis ,im comparing styles,NO one who stands in front of either Tyson or Morrison and are sub 200 pounders under 220 are going to be standing much longer..Fraizer wouldn't batter anything but chicken,his chin would never hold up,Morrison took flush shots from much harder punchers like Foreman and Lewis.The big misconception is Frazier was a power puncher...where and against who?Sorry but Ali getting hit for 15 straight rounds doesnt prove anything .Chuvalo is often recognized of having a good chin?Really but again who foreman belted him around and he never fought anyone good outside foreman who was a power puncher,so I don't think e puts a dent in Morrison,to small,easy to hit and predictable ,he threw his hook at the waist and looped it ,Morrison was like a cannon straight from guard,elbow at chin level ,hit you like a thunder bolt,its not n close.Frazier had good power but it wasn't one punch k.o power and power combined with technique its not even close.

[Ray Corso]

There are fighters who relied on certain punches and they became signature moves for those men too.
However I prefer textbook technique when talking about the bestever.
To me Joe Louis's technique stands out the most, the arm angle maintained and then the release to punch through the target is spot on.
Also Sugar Ray Robinsons ability to adlibe and create angles was outstanding. He could KO men while backing out with either hand. Unheard of today!

A fighter you may not consider was a very good hooker also. Jake LaMotta through very correct punches from an unorthodox stance. His body positioning doesn't produce a good vision to see form but his punches were correct where they landed. He had a really good left that he also pronated at times and would sweep it across the shoulder blades/chest area hoping the chin was hanging out there.....hahahaha!!!!
Cerdan and Zale also threw good meaningfull hooks too.
Zarate' and Argeullo did well too.

[Scott9945]

Highly doubt that Marvis had actual footwork and has a win over a 6'5 Smith who hits way harder than Chuvalo or Quarry..it doesn't even matter im not comparing Marvis ,im comparing styles,NO one who stands in front of either Tyson or Morrison and are sub 200 pounders under 220 are going to be standing much longer..Fraizer wouldn't batter anything but chicken,his chin would never hold up,Morrison took flush shots from much harder punchers like Foreman and Lewis.The big misconception is Frazier was a power puncher...where and against who?Sorry but Ali getting hit for 15 straight rounds doesnt prove anything .Chuvalo is often recognized of having a good chin?Really but again who foreman belted him around and he never fought anyone good outside foreman who was a power puncher,so I don't think e puts a dent in Morrison,to small,easy to hit and predictable ,he threw his hook at the waist and looped it ,Morrison was like a cannon straight from guard,elbow at chin level ,hit you like a thunder bolt,its not n close.Frazier had good power t it wasn't one punch power and power combined with technique its not even close.

I know everything is about weight for you. It is an easy and convenient stat for you to access. But Morrison wasn't in the same class as Frazier. He would not only lose, but lose very badly too. Can you imagine Frazier getting stopped by Michael Bentt or gassing out against Ray Mercer? If you can then there is nothing more that I can say. I'm still baffled at how you can say that Frazier wasn't a power puncher. That is vintage Elroy.

[juggernaut666]

I know everything is about weight for you. It is an easy and convenient stat for you to access. But Morrison wasn't in the same class as Frazier. He would not only lose, but lose very badly too. Can you imagine Frazier getting stopped by Michael Bentt or gassing out against Ray Mercer? If you can then there is nothing more that I can say. I'm still baffled at how you can say that Frazier wasn't a power puncher. That is vintage Elroy.

Frazier would get pasted he barely took Bonevena who IS much weaker by comparison than Morrison,again video footage doesn't lie.Had Frazier fought more power punchers like foreman he may not have ever even fought Ali 3 times..fraziers prime anyway was 67 to 71.Morrison fought to the level of his competiton ,can you imagine Frazier beating an in shape 250 Foreman who had a rock chin and runaaround and try and out point him for 12 rounds?How about going 6 with lewis who hit harder than 70's foreman,?See you can play the revolving door all you like ,Frazier didn't have to fight big athletic guys he beat small ones who stood in front of him,with the exception of Ali who WAS not a power puncher,enabled him to get the W.Frazier is not a one punch k.o artist we know this because we can look at his record,thats how.If Frazier is a power puncher why does he continuously have to land his hook round after round to grind out his opponets?See this is where you lose the argument,Frazier worked extremely hard to get the k.o and most of his k.os are after mid rounds anyway.Morrisons hook was more of a counter punch anyway and when going thru opponents defense it was way more effective than fraziers constant body attack then having to worjk the head...that's why he would never beat foreman any power puncher punching down on him doing that would knock him out,he only fought one his entire career and that was 220 foreman,light heavy weight Bonevena doesn't count.This isn't about who can kick whos ass anyway its about who has the better left hook and Morrison clearly has it over Frazier.Do you at least acknowledge Morrison deserves to be in the topic?Don't be a sonnyboy ..don't be a...

[Suckmedry]

I think its about time we all just ignore Elroy and juggernauts ramblings, and just discuss boxing with all the intelligent people. These guys aren't even trolls they are just imbeciles and I'm sick of reading their posts, seriously lets all put them on ignore and go back to having meaningful discussions.

[juggernaut666]

I think its about time we all just ignore Elroy and juggernauts ramblings, and just discuss boxing with all the intelligent people. These guys aren't even trolls they are just imbeciles and I'm sick of reading their posts, seriously lets all put them on ignore and go back to having meaningful discussions.

Says the boxing scene Tough guy ..listen dopey....shouldn't you be rambling nonsense yourself like you are doing now...stay on topic you putz then change your name after getting schooled?


Reality > Fantasy :wank:

[Anthony342]

Best hooker? Floyd Mayweather Jr. He'd do anything to make big money. Hell, money is even his nickname, dude's a total hooker.

Oh and I'd also add Shane Mosley's ex-wife who not only got a buttload of money from him but also one of his championship belts in his divorce settlement. Total hooker too.