I watched Tyson smash Holyfield with everything he had, and they just bounced off Holyfield, and its not just a particularly resilient guy like holyfield, I see fighters all the time take really powerful shots over and over again like its nothing. How is that possible? Esp from guys as powerful as Tyson.
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How come the human body is/can be so resilient to power/bombs?
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The human body ISN'T resistant to punches (let alone "power bombs"). Just because a fighter isn't starched by a big punch - don't think for one second he's come out of it unscathed.
If recent NFL studies prove anything it is that A + B = C.
Where A is a blow, B is a connection to the head and C is brain damage (of some description).
I love boxing. But that love is always being tested by the knowledge that at the end of EVERY fight both boxers leave the ring several million brain cells shorter than what they possessed coming in.
One only need consider Bowe and Holyfield when they turned pro and today to know this.
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Originally posted by AlexKid View PostI watched Tyson smash Holyfield with everything he had, and they just bounced off Holyfield, and its not just a particularly resilient guy like holyfield, I see fighters all the time take really powerful shots over and over again like its nothing. How is that possible? Esp from guys as powerful as Tyson.Last edited by Rockin'; 05-05-2015, 04:44 AM.
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Yeah usually the punches you don't see and aren't bracing for tend to hurt a lot more. Morrison said those are the punches that hurt him against Lewis and Mosley said the same when getting knocked down by Pacquiao.
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Originally posted by Mugwump View PostThe human body ISN'T resistant to punches (let alone "power bombs"). Just because a fighter isn't starched by a big punch - don't think for one second he's come out of it unscathed.
If recent NFL studies prove anything it is that A + B = C.
Where A is a blow, B is a connection to the head and C is brain damage (of some description).
I love boxing. But that love is always being tested by the knowledge that at the end of EVERY fight both boxers leave the ring several million brain cells shorter than what they possessed coming in.
One only need consider Bowe and Holyfield when they turned pro and today to know this.
After watching boxing for 40 years, and being very well aware of the horrendous downside of the sport, I’m still watching boxing.
If a scrutinize myself and ask if I’m a hypocrite and maybe a not so good person after all, the answer can only be ?yes
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Originally posted by Mugwump View PostThe human body ISN'T resistant to punches (let alone "power bombs"). Just because a fighter isn't starched by a big punch - don't think for one second he's come out of it unscathed.
If recent NFL studies prove anything it is that A + B = C.
Where A is a blow, B is a connection to the head and C is brain damage (of some description).
I love boxing. But that love is always being tested by the knowledge that at the end of EVERY fight both boxers leave the ring several million brain cells shorter than what they possessed coming in.
One only need consider Bowe and Holyfield when they turned pro and today to know this.
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Originally posted by rightsideup View Postall contact sports have there risks and in combat sports the goal is to hit and not be hit so again the risks are there just as the fact that people who drink socially lose some brain cells and drink to greater degrees can do major damage. People accept these risks when engaging in all these endeavors
A good example would be the Dennis Lebedev/Jones fight. I watched that with a strange mixture of fascination and horror (the referee should have been struck off for life, IMO).
If every fight were like it I imagine boxing would end up banned. You simply couldn't condone it.
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Originally posted by rightsideup View Postall contact sports have there risks and in combat sports the goal is to hit and not be hit so again the risks are there just as the fact that people who drink socially lose some brain cells and drink to greater degrees can do major damage. People accept these risks when engaging in all these endeavors
Secondly, in school pupils are tought about the damage to the brain if using alcohol or drugs.
A young fighter turning professional should start with the trainer explaining to the youngster that he is ******** a lot with his future health. I don’t think this ever happens.
I’ve learned about so many great athletes entering the pro boxing rings when teenagers, just to be totally wrecked 20 years later.
In The Ring ****zine during Nigel Collins’s reign, Dr. Margaret Goodman regularly reported about the consequences of a brain repeatedly being a target of punches (including sparring sessions).
It credited boxing with some honesty and decency ?the sport didn’t want to hide anything.
Unfortunately, her pages disappeared when Michael Rosenthal took charge and made The Ring a less stimulating mag.
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Originally posted by Ben Bolt View PostFirstly, boxing is generally considered as the most devastating contact sport, because it rewards punches to the head a lot more than other sports in the same genre.
Secondly, in school pupils are tought about the damage to the brain if using alcohol or drugs.
A young fighter turning professional should start with the trainer explaining to the youngster that he is ******** a lot with his future health. I don’t think this ever happens.
I’ve learned about so many great athletes entering the pro boxing rings when teenagers, just to be totally wrecked 20 years later.
In The Ring ****zine during Nigel Collins’s reign, Dr. Margaret Goodman regularly reported about the consequences of a brain repeatedly being a target of punches (including sparring sessions).
It credited boxing with some honesty and decency ?the sport didn’t want to hide anything.
Unfortunately, her pages disappeared when Michael Rosenthal took charge and made The Ring a less stimulating mag.
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Famous Foreman quote: I named all my sons George Edward Foreman. And I tell people, "If you're going to get hit as many times as I've been hit by Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Evander Holyfield - you're not going to remember many names."
Originally posted by rightsideup View PostI believe amateur fights are stopped in an earlier fashion than the pro's but yes you are totally correct that fighter's do not get reminded often enough about the long term risk's to there brain function and is extremely sad to see some fighter's lose there function's and perplexing as well when some like George Chavalo appear to have there faculties at an advanced age but admit that there is a fear that he may some day not.
So should we non-pro fighters. Our time on this planet is very limited, so starting a day without any kind of illness is a great gift ...Last edited by Ben Bolt; 05-09-2015, 06:59 PM.
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